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Team: 2020-21 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 16, 2020
Published: Oct. 16, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$833,333
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,333,333
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$70,468,332$0$882,500$11,031,668
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$6,375,000$6,375,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
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$4,850,000$4,850,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$2,425,000$2,425,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$778,333$778,333 (Performance Bonus$32,500$32K)
LW, RW, C
RFA - 1
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,375,000$3,375,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
UFA - 4
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 6
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
RFA - 1
$3,333,333$3,333,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
LD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$833,333$833,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1

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Oct. 16, 2020 at 5:09 p.m.
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How high do you value Tage Thompson lmao
Oct. 16, 2020 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Alfie11
How high do you value Tage Thompson lmao


There not giving anything of value for him
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Oct. 16, 2020 at 5:21 p.m.
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Even if the Sabres thought the value was right they don't have the cap space or spots in the lineup for these players
Oct. 16, 2020 at 6:10 p.m.
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Oct. 18, 2020 at 2:37 p.m.
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Quoting: OrganizedConfusion55
There not giving anything of value for him


Quoting: dzmets
Even if the Sabres thought the value was right they don't have the cap space or spots in the lineup for these players


IMO Thompson will be on the team next year, so moving him is not on my agenda, but that is a trade that would be hard to pass.
Ryan was Skinner's center during the 2016-'17 season that Skinner got 37 goals.
IDK if Rittich is an upgrade over Hutton, but with him it gives the Sabres some flexibility to choose 2 of 3 GK.
Emilio Pettersen is a decent prospect. His assists and pts ranked 6th and 4th respectively in the NCHC last season as a 19 yo.
The third makes the trade irresistible IMO.
The cap is closer than one would think, it may take some tinkering but it could be doable.
I used an old team: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2044374
Oct. 19, 2020 at 6:37 a.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
IMO Thompson will be on the team next year, so moving him is not on my agenda, but that is a trade that would be hard to pass.
Ryan was Skinner's center during the 2016-'17 season that Skinner got 37 goals.
IDK if Rittich is an upgrade over Hutton, but with him it gives the Sabres some flexibility to choose 2 of 3 GK.
Emilio Pettersen is a decent prospect. His assists and pts ranked 6th and 4th respectively in the NCHC last season as a 19 yo.
The third makes the trade irresistible IMO.
The cap is closer than one would think, it may take some tinkering but it could be doable.
I used an old team: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2044374


IMO you are at least 500K AAV on the contracts for Reinhart, Oloffson and Ullmark. I expect Ullmark about 2.85, Oloffson about 3.5 and Reinhart about 6.25. With the cap penalty from last year that puts this team about 4 million in overage. Perhaps we get 1 of these 3 on a severe discount like this but that still leaves us about 3 million over and it is hard to think any of them are willing to take an extreme discount seeing that they all filed for arbitration
Oct. 19, 2020 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: dzmets
IMO you are at least 500K AAV on the contracts for Reinhart, Oloffson and Ullmark. I expect Ullmark about 2.85, Oloffson about 3.5 and Reinhart about 6.25. With the cap penalty from last year that puts this team about 4 million in overage. Perhaps we get 1 of these 3 on a severe discount like this but that still leaves us about 3 million over and it is hard to think any of them are willing to take an extreme discount seeing that they all filed for arbitration


Thanks for your feedback.
You are correct if they were all multiyear contracts, but I gave them all one year deals.
Ullmark and Olofsson are due raises, with the flat cap and one year deals I think my guesses are close for one year contracts.
I did that so I could have some cap room.
The team will face cap problems next year with Dahlin, Jokiharju and Hall, but Ryan ($3,125,000), Rittich ($2,750,000), McCabe ($2,850,000), Staal ($3,250,000) and Montour ($3,850,000) all come off ($15,825,000).
The cap penalty $1,487,500 is included under the "OVERAGES".
My point is the trade would be a home run helping two weak positions.
It is a gamble that Skinner and Ryan could revive their chemistry, all trades are gambles.

I was only demonstrating that the trade is possible and helps the team.
BTW all of the expiring UFA's could be traded at the TDL If Mittelstadt, UPL, Samuelsson, Cozens, and Borgen are determined to be ready.
Oct. 19, 2020 at 3:46 p.m.
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Quoting: gretzkyghosts
Thanks for your feedback.
You are correct if they were all multiyear contracts, but I gave them all one year deals.
Ullmark and Olofsson are due raises, with the flat cap and one year deals I think my guesses are close for one year contracts.
I did that so I could have some cap room.
The team will face cap problems next year with Dahlin, Jokiharju and Hall, but Ryan ($3,125,000), Rittich ($2,750,000), McCabe ($2,850,000), Staal ($3,250,000) and Montour ($3,850,000) all come off ($15,825,000).
The cap penalty $1,487,500 is included under the "OVERAGES".
My point is the trade would be a home run helping two weak positions.
It is a gamble that Skinner and Ryan could revive their chemistry, all trades are gambles.

I was only demonstrating that the trade is possible and helps the team.
BTW all of the expiring UFA's could be traded at the TDL If Mittelstadt, UPL, Samuelsson, Cozens, and Borgen are determined to be ready.


When players go to arbitration their awards aren't based upon term just AAV for their comparables. Most recent comp for Ullmark is Gieorgiev at 2.425 and Korpisaalo at 2.8. For Oloffson it is Kubalik at 3.7 and Amdreas Johnsson at 3.4. Reinhart is a little more wide ranging with Domi at 5.25 and Dylan Larkin at 6.1. These were all player elected arbitration so the team has the option to take the deal for 1 or 2 years at the award amount or if the team declines the player becomes a free agent. On the second point I can see Borgen being ready right now and maybe Middleatadt by mid season but he is a big maybe. As far as Samuelsson I think he needs at least 1 full year in the ahl. He was good in college but not dominant. UPL was not ready even for the AHL last year so expecting him to be better than that league in half of a season I think is another big stretch
He probably needs 1 - 2 full seasons in the AHL still before he is ready
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