Gaborik was like 4.5 million, im ****ing getting rid of that

Lol they seem to keep acquiring old guys, zucker was meant to be brought it for a veteran presence and to sweeten the deal, also I didn’t trade zucker and white 1 for 1?

Lol there’s more to hockey than just points, in terms of offence that’s zuckers weakness, he heavily outperformed his expected goals due to a fringe elite shooting talent, which was likely due to him playing with the wilds system where everyone had good shooting talents.

That’s an interesting way to say you’re a ****ing idiot who can’t understand what I say.

Why do you keep milking his points lol, he probably got his points inflated by Crosby, in terms of offence, he’s 65th percentile in goals for per 60, that’s not even impressive, the reason I traded for him is because he’s an amazing forechecker with solid defence and veteran presence.

So you’re saying improving in virtually every way, keeping key prospects like Norris Brannstrom batherson stutzle jarventie greig Sanderson and JBD, and gaining a great prospect in Niemala, acquiring the 2 best forecheckers in the league, improving the defence pairings completely, is bad?

Bescause he’s a 20 goal a season player. He’s not a huge player-maker. That’s not his job or what he’s good at. So His points aren’t a big deal. It’s his goals that matter. He’s a scorer. Which he does. And many wings have played with Sid and Geno. You still have to produce.

And those 6 goals and 6 assists in 15 games weren’t inflated b/c of Sid and Geno. Those benefits from playing on a great line, come in assists. Secondary assists. Like Marner for the Leafs in 18-19 and he had 94 points in 82 games. And only 26 goals. Most of his points came from secondary assists from JT scoring 47 goals and Matthews scoring 39 goals that season. He benefitted from playing on a great line, and great PP. Most of his points were secondary assists. Not the primary assists.

That’s what I’m saying too; give him a full season on Geno’s line. He’s gonna get another10-15 assists just from playing on that line. But again, you still have to produce. And score. And that’s what he does.

A lot of wings have come and gone on Sid and Geno’s line and haven’t scored 20 goals a season. You still have to score. The 6 goals and 6 assists in 15 games weren’t a huge benefit from playing on Geno’s line and playing on the PP with Sid and Geno. But he will benefit this year with more assists and points. And he will score 20 plus goals. His career high of a 64 point season will be broken this year!!

Well first of all literally everything you said was horse****, Marner had the highest primary assist rate in the history is the tracking of that stat with 1.9 primary assists per 60, and 0.6 secondary assists per 60... Second, it doesn’t matter how you get a goal, even if you’re on the ice for most of your teams goals, you are likely contributing to that, zucker can continue to score but there’s many many other players who get more goals when they’re on the ice, zucker isn’t that good offensively when he’s isolated, to which I say he wouldn’t be that good as you say he is because he can’t do stuff on his own, but he certainly can, just not at an impressive rate. But again, why is zucker “really good” if he needs a good line to produce?

He doesn’t need a great line to produce. He’s been a 30 goal scorer 5 out of his past 6 seasons. I’m saying, watch when he is on a great line.

He would be statistically better, his actual impact wouldn’t really improve.

We’ll see!! Again, I’ll take Zucker for the next 3 years over Wilson!! We can come back to this!! Although I do like Formenton as a prospect!! I wish the Pens would have gotten him and the 2nd for Murray. Or S.Pinto and the 2nd.

We just had absolutely no leverage though.We couldn’t keep both, with the expansion draft coming up and Jarry needing a new contract. And all the FA goalies on the market this year. And the Flat-cap that none saw coming!! And him making 6.25M and coming off a below average season. His value was as low as it has ever been and ever will be!!

You guys are gonna like Murray. I like him on the Sens; Still only 26 years old, all-star and Stanley cup winning goalie. He’s a good goalie to have for your young goalie coming up too!! He did well with Jarry!! And he plays best in the play-offs. Can wins games for you!! You guys will like him!! Good people too!!

Lmao there’s a reason I traded Murray, hasn’t been good for at least 3 years, was a bottom 5 starting goaltender this year, was -10.59 in Goals Saved Above Average, and -13.98 in Goals Saved Above Expected. He’s a 3rd round pick at best, and cups aren’t an argument because it’s a team sport, and being bad and inconsistent for the last three years is a reason to be terrible instead of your old years, I traded him because he’s overpaid, and inconsistent, if he can return to his 2018-19 form then maybe it’d be okay, but coming off this season isn’t deserving for that amount

Lol. We can come back to that too!! An All-Star, Stanley Cup winning goalie. You guys will love him!! You will see!!

2018-19 he was 29-14 with 4 SO.

And Murray’s a big guy. He’s bigger than he’s listed. I guarantee you that. It says 6’4, 180. I bet he’s 6’5, 190 pounds.

I guess you didn't know that insurance pays 80% of Gaborik's salary. Then only reason to trade for a player on LTIR is to reach the cap floor, which every team has done, and as a safeguard when an RFA is holding out. LTIR is misunderstood by a lot of people.

Your trade values are way off, but don't sweat it, this is just for fun.,

I was the one who first mentioned that one for one, and it was in response to the other guy saying Zucker was worth more than White and Formenton combined. I countered that I wouldn't give him White for Zucker, let alone add in Formenton.

Oh yeah I didn’t know that my bad