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Manson To The Leafs

Created by: LeafsFan4Ever34
Team: 2020-21 Anaheim Ducks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 23, 2020
Published: Nov. 23, 2020
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
ANA
  1. Dell, Aaron
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. Kerfoot, Alexander
  4. Schingoethe, Wyatt [Reserve List]
  5. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  6. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
2.
ANA
  1. Timashov, Dmytro [RFA Rights]
DET
  1. Backes, David
  2. Getzlaf, Ryan
  3. 2021 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2022 3rd round pick (ANA)
  5. 2022 4th round pick (ANA)
  6. 2023 2nd round pick (TOR)
  7. 2023 2nd round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
Have some cap and a few picks
3.
ANA
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Curran, Kodie
Additional Details:
Needs more D for the future. Also who even is Kodie Curran?
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2021
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2022
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2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$81,500,000$54,107,166$0$850,000$27,392,834
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,463,139$2,463,139
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,456,250$1,456,250
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,602,778$2,602,778
LD
UFA - 2
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$6,400,000$6,400,000
G
UFA - 7
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 3
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$6,875,000$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 2

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Nov. 24, 2020 at 9:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Barilko14
All depends on how you view Kerfoot I guess. Personally I'd value him higher than Johnsson (who Leafs were offered 2nd for, but liked Anderson better), but as you so elegantly point out Leafs fans = idiots, so my opinion must not mean much.


I didn't say Leafs fans are idiots, I implied that a large portion of your fan base are world renowned for their ability to overvalue every single prospect, 4th liner, ancient veteran, etc in the organization.

Heck, it was a Leafs fan that actually put this garbage together in the first place, and it's hard to tell if he was being serious or not.
Nov. 24, 2020 at 11:54 a.m.
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Ah yes, way less for Muzzin...a 1st+B prospect+B- prospect is way, way less than a late 1st+late 2nd (In 2023?!?!)+Kerfoot, who's worth a late 2nd or 3rd+your left over trash. Huuggggeeee overpay tears of joy

Heck, at the time, because he was a Leafs prospect, Grundstrom was the future GOAT, so maybe we should switch that "B prospect" to "A+++++" prospect. You guys always have the best of the best! Shingoethe probably projects to be Matthews replacement long term, eh?


Oh of course. He's better than all the ducks prospects combined because he's a leaf.

It's similar to what they gave up for Muzzin, a tad more. But that's because Muzzin is about twice as good as Manson.
Nov. 24, 2020 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Oh of course. He's better than all the ducks prospects combined because he's a leaf.

It's similar to what they gave up for Muzzin, a tad more. But that's because Muzzin is about twice as good as Manson.


You know, I won't argue that Muzzin isn't better than Manson (He's not twice as good as him though...c'mon). I'll even agree that there's a bit more value going to the Ducks than the Kings got. What I will argue is the fact that it makes zero sense for Anaheim to do it.
Nov. 24, 2020 at 12:49 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 24, 2020 at 2:48 p.m.
Need a couple picks? You got half of ANA future going to Detroit
Nov. 24, 2020 at 1:53 p.m.
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You know, I won't argue that Muzzin isn't better than Manson (He's not twice as good as him though...c'mon). I'll even agree that there's a bit more value going to the Ducks than the Kings got. What I will argue is the fact that it makes zero sense for Anaheim to do it.


Ok, that's fair. Unless you count that the ducks are rebiulding.

Quoting: jchafe77
Need a couple picks? You got half of Detroit's future going to ANA for a player that will soon retire LOL. I think that's enough screen time for you today


You know, Anaheim is the one giving up all the picks. Detroit only surrenders Timashov.
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Nov. 24, 2020 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ok, that's fair. Unless you count that the ducks are rebiulding.


Would be very weird for GMBM to sign Shatty then immediately flip around and sell off Manson (No, I don't think they're a contender, but I do appreciate that GMBM is trying to put the best team possible on the ice).
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Nov. 24, 2020 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Would be very weird for GMBM to sign Shatty then immediately flip around and sell off Manson (No, I don't think they're a contender, but I do appreciate that GMBM is trying to put the best team possible on the ice).


If I were a ducks fan, I would be wanting a full on rebiuld, but whatever.
Nov. 24, 2020 at 2:29 p.m.
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I heff to be mad...
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Quoting: jchafe77
Need a couple picks? You got half of Detroit's future going to ANA for a player that will soon retire LOL. I think that's enough screen time for you today


TIMASHOV IS HALF OF DETROITS FUTURE???
Nov. 24, 2020 at 2:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Ok, that's fair. Unless you count that the ducks are rebiulding.



You know, Anaheim is the one giving up all the picks. Detroit only surrenders Timashov.


Meant the other way around. Thanks
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Nov. 24, 2020 at 2:55 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
TIMASHOV IS HALF OF DETROITS FUTURE???


Lets try this again...

Need a couple picks? You got half of ANA future going to Detroit.

If you think Timashov is worth Getzlaf, Backes, a 1st, two 2nds, a 3rd, AND a 4th, then there's a problem my dude.
Also, who trades a 2nd rounder for 30 year old player coming out of the SHL with no NHL games played?
Nov. 24, 2020 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Saskleaf
If I were a ducks fan, I would be wanting a full on rebiuld, but whatever.


Meh. I'm pretty content with the ever-growing stable of prospects. Might not be good for 2020-2021, which means there'll be another top 10 pick this year. Lots of free cap space for 2021-2022. Not much of a benefit in trading away Hampus or Gibby unless it's a f*cking overwhelming return. Rakell is coming off a so-so offensive season (So is everyone), so there's not much of a point in selling low on him. If a B prospect and a 2nd round pick are the best you can get for Manson, there's no point moving him. Fowler ain't going anywhere, and wouldn't bring back much if he did anyway. Getzy's never leaving.

Tough to do a sell off.
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Nov. 24, 2020 at 3:34 p.m.
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Meh. I'm pretty content with the ever-growing stable of prospects. Might not be good for 2020-2021, which means there'll be another top 10 pick this year. Lots of free cap space for 2021-2022. Not much of a benefit in trading away Hampus or Gibby unless it's a f*cking overwhelming return. Rakell is coming off a so-so offensive season (So is everyone), so there's not much of a point in selling low on him. If a B prospect and a 2nd round pick are the best you can get for Manson, there's no point moving him. Fowler ain't going anywhere, and wouldn't bring back much if he did anyway. Getzy's never leaving.

Tough to do a sell off.


Ya I guess.
Nov. 24, 2020 at 3:48 p.m.
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Quoting: jchafe77
Lets try this again...

Need a couple picks? You got half of ANA future going to Detroit.

If you think Timashov is worth Getzlaf, Backes, a 1st, two 2nds, a 3rd, AND a 4th, then there's a problem my dude.
Also, who trades a 2nd rounder for 30 year old player coming out of the SHL with no NHL games played?


FOR THE GAJILLIONTH TIME, ITS A CAP DUMP TRADE, NOT A VALUE TRADE
Nov. 25, 2020 at 8:38 a.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
FOR THE GAJILLIONTH TIME, ITS A CAP DUMP TRADE, NOT A VALUE TRADE


yes I get that, but why do you need to throw in a first, two seconds, a third, and a fourth-rounder too? ANA is getting fleeced here
 
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