NJ was not trading KP last year. They were not asking anything. They were listening and if they were blown away by an offer they would have accepted. But their game plan was to extend him. That has changed.

Boston takes that offer and runs....happily. Late 2nds rarely amount to much more than marginal NHLers and bottom 6 third pair complementary type. Kase has minimal value with his concussion history.

KP value is 2nd and quality prospect at minimum. This is below that.

lol no they literally were I read numerous articles about it and talked to three of my good friends from NJ, so im sorry but your point is just invalid

I read that Boston wants to trade Debrusk for Virtanen. We both know that is not true. We read multiple Krug for RNH articles. Turns out there was never a discussion. EDM was on Krug NTC. Read Bjork for Chiasson was discussed. Wasn’t. Was speculation by Edm writer after Debrusk/Bjork for Nurse/Chiasson fizzled. I read dozens of articles over 2 months telling me that cops with a warrant burst into the wrong house to arrest a man that was already in custody and shot a woman sleeping in her bed. None of which was true. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Other teams went to them, not the other way around. Had they wanted to trade him they would have.

You spend way to much time focusing on how to short change the other team. Bottom line is Boston wins that trade. Are a better team for it. And you are more concerned about nickle and diming them. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Barclay Goodrow got a 1st, you think this is an overpay. LMAO

If Kase becomes a 20 goal scorer again and KP does not extend. They lose long term. They still gain short term. Unless you think Kase comes back healthy and productive. Would not bet on it.

As far as the 2nds go. Since the 2015 draft, looking at the bottom 6 picks, where Boston likely picks, the 3 most productive players. Vince Dunn, Jonas Siegenthaler, and Dillon Dube. Those are the most productive. There are some that will make their way to the NHL still. Many will not, or make minimal impact if they do. Small price for a proven 50 point guy.

In the 2nd round of recent drafts, bruins have taken: Brandon Carlo, Jack Studnicka, Jeremy Lauzon In recent years (Nice), Bergy, Krejci, Lucic years back (WOW), and just to round out what Im saying: Donato, Axel Andersson, JFK, and Khoklachev, and Lohrie (Damn)... who are all solid picks that either got traded away, went to europe because they were Centers on a bruins roster that had no space for them, or are still too young to call them busts...

Yes they are slightly improved now (maybe? He sucks rn so maybe not, but im tryna help your point), BUT that doesnt make it a good trade, because with TWOOOO 2nd round picks, it is BEYOND unreasonable for the bruins to do.

Bruins reject, im sorry but they do, this trade is awful for them

Those were early 2nd round picks. They won’t be picking early. Again go look at the last half dozen picks of the last half dozen years. There is literally nothing. And this years draft is weak.

2 late 2nds for a 50 point forward is a steal. Kase is irrelevant.

Wrong again... The only one in the first half of the round (pick 45-30) was Carlo at 37, and Ryan Spooner (another guy I forgot) at 40 LMAO
Come on Dude. Stop tryna argue, you seem like a nice guy and we agree that the mods on this website are annoying from time to time with their warnings and suspensions, but you are wrong here man

Lauzon was 52.

Since 2015 draft who have Boston taken in 2nd round or picks they have traded away that have or will amount to anything? Studnicka who was not a bottom 6 pick and maybe Lohrei who was a big reach. The rest...garbage.

Again go look, bottom 6 picks of round 2 last half dozen years. Nothing more than role playes and marginal talent.

2nd round picks in the 30s and 40s are not the same as late 50s and 60s.

Here i made it easy for you. Last 5 years of bottom 6 2nd round. Pick the best 2 and tell me you would not trade them for KP with a straight face.

Dillon Dube
Carl Grundstrom
Taylor Raddysh
Evan Fitzpatrick
Dylan Gambrell
Kasper Bjorkqvist
Ian Mitchell
Joni Ilkonon
Eemil Rasanen
Antoine Morand
Grant Mismash
Jake Lesyshyn
Axel Andersson
Filip Hallander
Gabriel Fortier
David Gustafsson
Ivan Morozov
Oliver Rodrigue
Karl Henriksson
Samuel Bolduc
Hunter Jones
Albert Johansson
Nikita Ohyutuk
Nikita Alexandov
Jack Finley
Mason Lohrei
Roni Hirovonen
Will Cuylie
Egor Sokolov
Gage Goncalves

Because of where Boston will be picking those 2nds are not that valuable.

Sure. You can cherry pick a few picks here in there that went after 55 that went on to be valuable. It’s not the norm.

Dude 60s in the 3rd round lmao
45-60 is the bottom half of the 2nd round. Studnicka and Lauzon and the others I said were all late 2nd rounders
Stop dude

32 teams now dude. 2nd round goes to 64 now. Plus supplemental picks.

Still 31, and we are talking about history so up till 2 years ago it was still 30, these are important details.

60 is the end of the 2nd round for the sake of this discussion lmao. Dont try to change that lol

The 2nds we are talking about are upcoming. Boston will be picking near the bottom in the 60s in round 2. Grasping now.

Which 2 did you pick from that list?

Man idc anymore. Bottom line is bruins are rejecting this trade. thats a fact, there is no question about it.
If you dont wanna listen / learn it doesnt matter to me, thats your loss.

But yeah bruins reject, anyone who is anyone knows that

They don’t. Still have not answered me. Which 2?

Mine are Lohrei who may or may not turn into the next Carlo. And Cuylie who is projected to be a bottom 6 Austin Watson type. And for a team trying to win a cup now. I trade them for KP without batting an eye.

2 late 2nds that are unknowns but history says they are 50/50 to amount to anything more than complimentary pieces for a known 55 point RW. Easy decision.

First off, I dont have to answer you cuz you are still wrong and are ignoring the point.
However to be nice: Taylor Raddysh, and Axel Andersson. Top 6 potential RW who excelled in Juniors, and Axel Andersson top 4 potential RHD prospect who was already worth Ondrej Kase.
Easy
but yeah

Anderson was another Sweeney reach that was a 4th round grade. His ceiling is #4/5 type. Raddysh is a solid choice, but is looking like a 3rd liner tops, potential to be 2nd liner who needs a change of scenery.

Combined they are not worth KP you would still have to add.

No lol
thats wrong

Nope.

Would you trade say Coyle or Debrusk if they were UFAs this year for a pair of late 2nds or those 2. I wouldn’t. I’d want more. And if you look at what NJ did at the deadline last year and think they take that for KP it’s kind of laughable.

Boston’s 2nd round pick this year will likely be 58-64 range. Those are early 3rds previously. In a draft that is not very deep. The list above were picked 54-62. Boston’s 2nd this year has less value than any of those years.

Come back to me after the deadline. I bet KP goes for more than 2 2nds and a vegetable.

debrusk and Coyle are both younger and better right now
Please stop man, this is just a waste of my time.
No matter how much you try to make urself feel better, bruins are not going to accept. Sorry man! Im done here

JD is not better than KP that is ignorant. He has the potential to be but he is not as of yet.

KP has 5 straight seasons of 24-30 goals. Coyle and Debrusk have hit the 20 mark once each in their career.

I see what the problem is. You have no idea who KP is or what he is worth. Got it. I thought you were overvaluing the 2nds. You are undervaluing KP.

Semi right they will not get him for that because they won’t have the opportunity too. It will cost them something like a 1st and Curtis Hall which they won’t pay because they dont need him as much as they did the last. 2 years. But if they. can get him for a pair of late 2nds they jump on it.

Lmao ok we r done