He missed one meeting in 8 years lol. Coke was in 2019. It’s 2021… what’s it like living in 2019? Lol

VV had a great rookie season. Is a rfa. Is signed to a sub million deal for the next season. He’s absolutely worth a 2nd. He was top 10 in ice time and wins. You acted like this kid had the 99 devils in front of him. Capitals are one of the worse defensive teams in the league.

Felix Robert Is 21 not 19. Why would the capitals trade a 1st round pick that they draft last year for less than a first when he had an incredible season and an amazing playoffs. It’s not rocket science pretty basic stuff. Lol like what’s his value now? Did it drop in a year where he put up great numbers ? That’s just silly. At this point I’m questioning if you understand how to properly value players or if you are actually a caps fan at all? If you add another 1st you could get close to Eichel lol just saying you are selling way too low in Kuzy. They guy is great. Lappy might actually turn out to be better than McM have you ever watched him play. Kid looks to have elite talent. He’s also managed to avoid injury … IMO a big reason Canada didn’t pick him.

Do you really think Kuzy, VV, Lapierre, a 1st and a 3rd get you close to Eichel? Man, I think you're still stuck in 2018 hoping to see Cup run Kuzy magically reappear on the Capital One Arena ice. Let me tell you, he's not going to. He is 29 YO.

Kuzy doesn't move the needle for Eichel and many other teams can offer better young pieces than
VV, Lapierre and a 1st. Even with his injury situation, that may force Buffalo to take a lesser deal if they decide to move him, Caps can't come close to what a team like the NYR, ANA or LAK can offer for him. Even VGK to mention a contender can offer better pieces.

The only team I think my pay a better value for Kuzy is CBJ out of desperation but I think they are on his no trade list.

VV was top 10 in ice time and wins because the Caps had no other option. Samsonov and his 2 Covid list stints? Craig Anderson? Any goalie would have gotten those wins. An average one might have gotten one or two more. Right now he's an ok starter that might develop into a solid one. Agree his cap hit is enticing but it's for just one more season. His medium and low danger sv% last season were below average, meaning he let in more soft goals than average. His rebound control isn't very good even if it got better as the season went along. Caps were one of the worst defensive teams in the league? They were the 9th best team during the season on 5 on 5 expected goals against. http://moneypuck.com/teams.htm

I might start questioning your hockey understanding after this. Both of our abilities to judge players don't really matter as we're two fans arguing back and forth on these boards nowhere close to being a hockey scout.

The only difference between you an me is that I don't overvalue my teams players and prospects while undervaluing everyone elses.

At this point Lapierre is nothing more than a good prospect with major injury concerns. His skills are legit but there's a reason he fell in the draft and the Caps took a shot trying to hit a HR after having selected late for so many consecutive years in the first round.

He's still worth a first in my opinion but not a 1st plus and his value hasn't changed since being drafted. He had a kind of season expected of him. I can only think you're joking after saying Canada didn't pick him to avoid another injury. His points total doesn't mean he had an amazing season just a good one. His selection was performance based but go look at their roster. It's stacked. 6 2020 eligible draftee forwards were selected and one of them was selected 2 spots after Lapierre. He isn't better than any of the forwards selected. He's good and may turnout to be a steal but he's not a can't miss prospect.

What are the odds a late first, second or third round picks making to the league let alone becoming impact players? Really low I guess. I would definitely trade those odds for a play driving, defensively responsible 27 YO top 6 center if extended to try to better during Ovi and Backy final years.

That value is closer to Eichel than Hertl they want the equivalent of 4 1st

Lappy = 1st
Kuzy = 1st +
I said add a 1st
V V = 2nd /3rd
Yeah that’s damn close to 4 1st

Again not 🚀 science. Just know your players value. I said Canada didn’t pick him bc of his injuries. The kid scored 12p in 9 playoff games that’s great.

What are the odds?
Capitals selects rounds 1-3 note worry

Alexeyev Fehérváry Mcm Leason Protas Lappy. They been killing it late in the draft. Kuzy was also a late pick…. Odds aren’t terrible considering all these guys will be huge parts of the future

Capitals are 12th in xgf% and HDGF%. That’s not good at all.

My point is teams value players differently. A team like Buffalo (if they decide to move Eichel), Det or SJ know that Kuzy won't be there when they're competitive again and are looking for future pieces. They may not value him as a 1st and are going to ask for good future pieces with him.

On the other hand, teams like VGK, Min or MTL might look at him as a guy with a good playoff history and talent to help them win now. Because of that, they might value him closer to a 1st as they may take a chance on him returning to 2018 form and helping them climb the contender status ladder.

But then comes his off ice stuff, that could make those win now teams scared and force them to look somewhere else for help. The reality is the off ice stuff decreases his value and we can only speculate as what his behaviour is inside that locker room.

Even Lapierre might be valued lower than a 1st round by some teams scared by his injury history.

Going after Eichel is a pipe dream. Caps don't have those assets. LAK can offer Turcotte, Villardi, Thomas and a 1st. VGK can throw Tuch, Glass, Hague and a 1st. NYR can offer Schneider/Lundkvist, Chytil, Kakko and a 1st. Car show Suzuki, Necas and a 1st. Caps can't come close to any of those offers.

That's why, considering that Lapierre won't help the team win during Ovi final years, that I'd be willing to part with him, VV and Kuzy in an overpayment to get an already established and very good player with a contract extension in place than wait another year to see if Kuzy returns to great status, which I personally think it's unlikely.

Agree that all the players listed are part of the future. But outside of McM, who can be a game breaker? Alexeyev and Fehervary top out as 2nd pair guys and with luck and the right partner may play on the top pair. McM is a top 6 in the making with potential to be one. Protas as a middle 6 guy. Leason had a poor first pro season and really improved this past season. May become a middle 6 winger. Lapierre has the skills to be top 6 guy but I see him as a boom or bust type of guy. AJF may become a PK specialist and speedy 4th liner. After his year in Sweden, Nardella may become a solid third pair guy. On the current roster, who'll play with them in 5 years? Mantha, Wilson, the goalies, Carlson? Orlov? That would be a bottom third of the league roster. The game breakers will come from the early picks this team will result in that can be plugged immediately or in short time in the lineup. Dark times are coming but they're also fun. Even Hertl could be later traded after the window closes to recoup some of the value lost with his trade. He'll still be of service when Ovi, Backy and Oshie are gone.

Sorry about the long text again. I should really learn how to summarize my thoughts but English is not my first language and it's hard.

Imo the capitals are in great shape moving forward… maybe need to beef up wingers and RHD but down the middle McM Lappy Protas are all great unless something terrible happens. Alexeyev was used as a top pairing guy in Russia and MF has the ability to become a great top pairing Dman if they ever give him some nhl time. That’s just my 2 cents on the matter. If I’m Washington I’m doing whatever I can this year to restore Kuzy full value.