No, Flames laugh at you and hang up.

Think you're off there, maybe another prospect/Pick but we're well within ballpark in terms of pure value. Now, from a franchise goal standpoint, this maybe makes less sense, but the value's there

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I really don't understand how you see it like that, Shane Bowers is a B tier prospect, the pick is in 2024 from a team thats likely top 5 in the league, a pretty pointless 2nd from again a team thats likely top 5 in the league, and Alex Newhook is a great value piece im not parting with my best player and future captain for that package. If Byram isn't involved in the trade its a pretty easy no from the Flames.

You're gonna over value him just like I'm gonna overvalue Landeskog, I don't care if he's *your team's* best player, 2-3 high picks 2-3 three mid-high prospects is plenty fair for a 60-70 point top-15 guy. That's absolutely the starting point lmao. Like I said, maybe throw in an extra pick and/or prospect bc of CO's prospects, but my point was that's the value, in a vaccuum is there. Now, that's a rebuilding blow-it-up move, and it doesn't necessarily seem like that's where CGY is, so yes, this trade doesn't make sense, and under that context, it absolutely would take more to pry him away, BUT in a vaccum the value's there.

You're not gonna get Byram + prospects and picks if you want that trade, value wise. Byram projects as a top-15 NHL defensemen, you could *maybe* get Byram + low-mid prospect or mid pick.

My point's about sheer value, the sheer value is there. The context and what CGY as an org. are trying to do make this trade untenable, hence why it would require more.

That trade is the equivalent of the "The value's there but this doesn't meet our trade block needs" message in NHL Be a GM mode lmao.

I can't argue that because you're absolutely right in a vacuum the projection you said for Tkachuk's value is definitely that, but the trade you offered in my opinion is not equal to the value you stated, the 2-3 high picks, and the 2-3 mid-high prospects. Because your pick is extremely low, Shane Bowers wouldn't interest me at all if i'm GMBT, Newhook is the only player in there that interests me. But if im giving up Matthew Tkachuk I need more than just Newhook to interest me, otherwise the answers no.