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Ari - Tor Blockbuster

Created by: IjustNEEDaTROYgamble
Published: Sep. 7, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
Salary Cap: $81,500,000
Season Days: 186/186 (100%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Arizona CoyotesArizona Coyotes

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Schmaltz, NickArizona CoyotesNHL-$5,850,000111---0000--
Chychrun, JakobArizona CoyotesNHL-$4,600,000111---0000--
Keller, ClaytonArizona CoyotesNHL-$7,150,000111---0000--
Timmins, ConorWaivers ExemptArizona CoyotesNHL-$850,000111---0000--
Hayton, BarrettWaivers ExemptArizona CoyotesMinor-$0011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Rielly, MorganToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$5,000,000111---0000--
Dermott, TravisToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,500,000111---0000--
Matthews, AustonToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$11,640,250111---0000--
Mikheyev, IlyaToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,645,000111---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$11,946,38322456951412
Change-$1,335,2500-1-1000
Final$10,611,133 (↓)2244 (↓)68 (↓)51412000

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Rielly, MorganToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$5,000,000111---0000--
Dermott, TravisToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,500,000111---0000--
Matthews, AustonToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$11,640,250111---0000--
Mikheyev, IlyaToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,645,000111---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Schmaltz, NickArizona CoyotesNHL-$5,850,000111---0000--
Chychrun, JakobArizona CoyotesNHL-$4,600,000111---0000--
Keller, ClaytonArizona CoyotesNHL-$7,150,000111---0000--
Timmins, ConorWaivers ExemptArizona CoyotesNHL-$850,000111---0000--
Hayton, BarrettWaivers ExemptArizona CoyotesMinor-$0011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$0234771358
Change$1,335,250011000
Final$1,335,250 (↑)2348 (↑)72 (↑)358000
Who wins the trade?
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:03 a.m.
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Before we get too far, let's just accept that we are not 'living in the real world' when discussing trades like this. These types of 'massive trades' just don't happen.

That said, at first glance, this is very interesting. If we go back to 2016-2017, AZ is giving up 503 pts while TOR is giving up 651. If we use the general rule of 2A:1G, AZ is looking at a net gain of 217G over that span or roughly 43G per season. That's better than a half-goal per game. That would be huge. So it would seem that AZ is winning the trade. However, if we look at production last year, AZ is giving up 115 pts in return for 124 from TOR. That seems much more even.

While everybody seems to think AZ wins, I actually think they decline. Here's why...

In terms of contract years at current AAV, the Coyotes are trading 18 years in return for 7. That is NOT the direction a rebuilding team wants to go. They want the opposite. They have Keller, Schmaltz & Chychrun locked up for the next several years. Meanwhile, Rielly will want a raise next year and I highly doubt Matthews will be willing to take much of a pay cut when his current contract expires.

So I guess it boils down to this... From a fan's perspective (wanting to see results 'right now'), AZ wins. From a GM's perspective (trying to build a franchise), TOR wins.

But again, yes, very interesting.

Side note: Leaving Glendale will be the best thing that happens to AZ. They need to build a rink in PHOENIX. Playing in a rink 45 minutes down the road is NOT helping their cause. After all, nobody wants to go watch a hockey game and have a couple beers, then drive home through the most unforgiving DUI county in the entire USA. Get them to PHX and they will start making money. Then we can start talking about 'blockbuster' trades.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:34 a.m.
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Fanboys make bad Gms
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Quoting: UncleChucker
Before we get too far, let's just accept that we are not 'living in the real world' when discussing trades like this. These types of 'massive trades' just don't happen.

That said, at first glance, this is very interesting. If we go back to 2016-2017, AZ is giving up 503 pts while TOR is giving up 651. If we use the general rule of 2A:1G, AZ is looking at a net gain of 217G over that span or roughly 43G per season. That's better than a half-goal per game. That would be huge. So it would seem that AZ is winning the trade. However, if we look at production last year, AZ is giving up 115 pts in return for 124 from TOR. That seems much more even.

While everybody seems to think AZ wins, I actually think they decline. Here's why...

In terms of contract years at current AAV, the Coyotes are trading 18 years in return for 7. That is NOT the direction a rebuilding team wants to go. They want the opposite. They have Keller, Schmaltz & Chychrun locked up for the next several years. Meanwhile, Rielly will want a raise next year and I highly doubt Matthews will be willing to take much of a pay cut when his current contract expires.

So I guess it boils down to this... From a fan's perspective (wanting to see results 'right now'), AZ wins. From a GM's perspective (trying to build a franchise), TOR wins.

But again, yes, very interesting.

Side note: Leaving Glendale will be the best thing that happens to AZ. They need to build a rink in PHOENIX. Playing in a rink 45 minutes down the road is NOT helping their cause. After all, nobody wants to go watch a hockey game and have a couple beers, then drive home through the most unforgiving DUI county in the entire USA. Get them to PHX and they will start making money. Then we can start talking about 'blockbuster' trades.


Before we get too far, why are we even going anywhere? People who write blockbuster in their trades just wanna seem important. Ignore em.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:48 a.m.
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In a hypothetical world, it really isn't that far off. Granted, this 'hypothetical world' assumes that players don't have any preference in where they play and they don't care who they play with. But in terms of 'production right now', it really isn't all that terrible. It would just be a question of whether or not AZ thinks they are in a position to 'win now' (they aren't; they don't).

All of that aside, have you seen the picks AZ has stacked up?!?!?!?! Dear lord.... Even if they hit on 1/3 of them, they may very well have a cup-contending team in 3-4 years with a roster full of RFA's.... Then again, the franchise is a dumpster fire so they'll probably draft a 'roll of the world's best hockey tape' with one of their firsts and a 'bag of slightly used pucks' with two of their second rounders....
Sep. 8, 2021 at 2:31 p.m.
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Lets go Canucklehea
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Before we get too far, why are we even going anywhere? People who write blockbuster in their trades just wanna seem important. Ignore em.


Says the guy who acts like the commish
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 2:33 p.m.
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Fanboys make bad Gms
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Quoting: IjustNEEDaTROYgamble
Says the guy who acts like the commish


I do. feel free to consider that an issue and a thing you don't like.

Doesn't change any part of how dumb saying blockbuster on 500 trades is and just throwing names around like a big shot.

If you don't like my comments, block me. But every time I see a waste of a trade I will say so. Even if you can't read it.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 6:28 p.m.
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BIGG PAPI LOCASTA
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Quoting: IjustNEEDaTROYgamble
Says the guy who acts like the commish


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