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Selling Low on Dermott

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I don't know how the Leafs get under the cap without trading Dermott. Leafs may have some other alternative move but it looks very difficult. Thoughts?
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:16 p.m.
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They waive a 4th liner instead of some terrible trade for dermott every time
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
They waive a 4th liner instead of some terrible trade for dermott every time


I did look at the roster already they only have 22 players on the roster and they have only 320K left, who else to waive?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:21 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
They waive a 4th liner instead of some terrible trade for dermott every time


Unless you want to trade or buyout Mikheyev
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:23 p.m.
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Unless you want to trade or buyout Mikheyev


Why in the world woild you buy out Mikheyev?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:24 p.m.
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I did look at the roster already they only have 22 players on the roster and they have only 320K left, who else to waive?


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I did look at the roster already they only have 22 players on the roster and they have only 320K left, who else to waive?


No one, liljegren is exempt and goes to the marlies
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:25 p.m.
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Why in the world woild you buy out Mikheyev?


If you don't want to trade Dermott how are the Leafs getting under the cap. Does the Leafs want to play with 21 players on the roster?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:26 p.m.
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If you don't want to trade Dermott how are the Leafs getting under the cap. Does the Leafs want to play with 21 players on the roster?


Other than horrifically losing a trade for no reason? Yes
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:27 p.m.
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Other than horrifically losing a trade for no reason? Yes


You understand you can not get under the cap without trading Dermott period, or you go with a severely shorten roster
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:28 p.m.
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they waive two of brooks/engvall/gabriel and boom they are cap compliant, not rocket science
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:29 p.m.
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You understand you can not get under the cap without trading Dermott period, or you go with a severely shorten roster


Yes, you understand that the leafs arnt going to lose a trade badly so they can have guys who dont move the needle in the press box?
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:30 p.m.
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they waive two of brooks/engvall/gabriel and boom they are cap compliant, not rocket science


Hey Buddy I just did that, look at the roster. Try again
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:31 p.m.
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IMO they will have Kase on LTIR and send Engvall down to the Marlies. That leaves them enough cap to keep a 22 man roster. They need Dermott
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:34 p.m.
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IMO they will have Kase on LTIR and send Engvall down to the Marlies. That leaves them enough cap to keep a 22 man roster. They need Dermott


That's the answer, nice job.
All these other Leaf fans love to whine without coming up with answers
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:36 p.m.
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That's the answer, nice job.
All these other Leaf fans love to whine without coming up with answers


To be honest most are trolls who don't even like the Leafs, just to get a rise out of people
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Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:38 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
To be honest most are trolls who don't even like the Leafs, just to get a rise out of people


Does anyone know how long Kase will be out?
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:42 p.m.
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Does anyone know how long Kase will be out?


I've seen conflicting reports, some say he has been skating at full strength all summer, others that he will be out till middle of the season. Until camp starts, don't think we will know for sure. But IMO this is the easiest way to keep their depth by not subtracting anyone from the roster.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 12:46 p.m.
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Quoting: MatthewsFan
I've seen conflicting reports, some say he has been skating at full strength all summer, others that he will be out till middle of the season. Until camp starts, don't think we will know for sure. But IMO this is the easiest way to keep their depth by not subtracting anyone from the roster.


If Kase is ready to go what does the Leafs do, try to trade Kampf and go with one extra forward and Dman
Sep. 8, 2021 at 1:02 p.m.
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If Kase is ready to go what does the Leafs do, try to trade Kampf and go with one extra forward and Dman


Kampf is going nowhere, they just signed him and from what I have read are very high on him. I think the hope is to have a strong 3rd line of ?/Kampf/Kase
Honestly if Kase is healthy, I have no idea how they can make a more than a 21 roster. There is no real depth behind Dermott should he be moved. They still think highly of Kerfoot (hopefully only as a LW tho) Moving Mikheyev makes no sense at this moment, they just signed Semyonov who both played together in the KHL, gotta think they want to see if there is any chemistry there. Plus he plays tough mins and on the PK, Same think with Engvall, plays hard mins and a lot of PK mins. Who's replacing that? But Engvall does make the most sense to be moved to create cap space. It's the Simmonds signing I HATE. That 900K would be very useful. Plus he is probably going to cost them losing Joey Anderson or Brooks if both get sent on waivers.
Sep. 8, 2021 at 1:07 p.m.
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Kampf is going nowhere, they just signed him and from what I have read are very high on him. I think the hope is to have a strong 3rd line of ?/Kampf/Kase
Honestly if Kase is healthy, I have no idea how they can make a more than a 21 roster. There is no real depth behind Dermott should he be moved. They still think highly of Kerfoot (hopefully only as a LW tho) Moving Mikheyev makes no sense at this moment, they just signed Semyonov who both played together in the KHL, gotta think they want to see if there is any chemistry there. Plus he plays tough mins and on the PK, Same think with Engvall, plays hard mins and a lot of PK mins. Who's replacing that? But Engvall does make the most sense to be moved to create cap space. It's the Simmonds signing I HATE. That 900K would be very useful. Plus he is probably going to cost them losing Joey Anderson or Brooks if both get sent on waivers.


You do see why Isles Fans are exploiting your cap for Dermott. It a risk putting your faith into LTIR. Maybe they can trade Engvall or Kampf before Dermott but it is will be extremely difficult the closer you get to opening day. I still think Liljegren can take Dermott's spot
Sep. 8, 2021 at 1:13 p.m.
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You do see why Isles Fans are exploiting your cap for Dermott. It a risk putting your faith into LTIR. Maybe they can trade Engvall or Kampf before Dermott but it is will be extremely difficult the closer you get to opening day. I still think Liljegren can take Dermott's spot


Would be great if that worked out
Rielly Brodie
Muzzin Liljegren
Sandin Holl

But if no Dermott they have (Dalhstrom, Rubins, Kivihalme) not exactly stellar options although I am high on Rubins
Sep. 8, 2021 at 3:09 p.m.
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Hey Buddy I just did that, look at the roster. Try again


if you have robertson making the roster it changes things , i personally think he starts in the AHL
Sep. 8, 2021 at 3:25 p.m.
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if you have robertson making the roster it changes things , i personally think he starts in the AHL


It doesn't change anything you still over the cap by 500K. LTIR is only option without trading players
Sep. 8, 2021 at 6:15 p.m.
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It doesn't change anything you still over the cap by 500K. LTIR is only option without trading players

? with the roster the way it is, they waive engvall and brooks and they have 455k left, not sure what youre saying
Sep. 8, 2021 at 7:33 p.m.
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? with the roster the way it is, they waive engvall and brooks and they have 455k left, not sure what youre saying


So without putting Kase on LTIR you know have a 21 player in order to keep Dermott. Way to go your logic makes no sense, maybe if you actually looked at the roster you wouldn't be complaining
Sep. 8, 2021 at 9:39 p.m.
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So without putting Kase on LTIR you know have a 21 player in order to keep Dermott. Way to go your logic makes no sense, maybe if you actually looked at the roster you wouldn't be complaining


the leafs are going to run a 21 man roster idk if youve paid attention or not lmfao what are u going on about, you want dermott that bad? 2nd rounder pls
 
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