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Forsberg TDL

Created by: bhuntlol
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 24, 2021
Published: Oct. 24, 2021
Team: 2021-22 Toronto Maple Leafs
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Forsberg, Filip ($3,000,000 retained)
NSH
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. Hirvonen, Roni [Reserve List]
  3. Miettinen, Veeti [Reserve List]
  4. 2022 1st round pick (TOR)
  5. 2023 4th round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,934,783$0$400,000$565,217
Left WingCenterRight Wing
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Forsberg, Filip
$3,000,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 4
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Robertson, Nicholas
$796,667
LW
RFA - 3
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Kase, Ondrej
$1,250,000
RW
RFA - 1
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Ritchie, Nick
$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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Spezza, Jason
$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
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Engvall, Pierre
$1,250,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Sandin, Rasmus
$894,167
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Campbell, Jack
$1,650,000
G
UFA - 1
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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Liljegren, Timothy
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
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Mrázek, Petr
$3,800,000
G
NTC
UFA - 3
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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Holl, Justin
$2,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Mikheyev, Ilya
$1,645,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Oct. 24, 2021 at 9:33 p.m.
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You sure you want to give up a lottery pick?
Oct. 24, 2021 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
You sure you want to give up a lottery pick?


talk to me when the leafs end up top 5 in the league and go on a cup run bozo
Oct. 24, 2021 at 9:43 p.m.
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I'd be open to trading Forsberg, but not for that return. NSH declines.
Oct. 24, 2021 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
I'd be open to trading Forsberg, but not for that return. NSH declines.


its a deadline deal youre not gonna get much more for 20 games of a player
Oct. 24, 2021 at 11:01 p.m.
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Quoting: bhuntlol
its a deadline deal youre not gonna get much more for 20 games of a player


The pieces coming back aren't of much interest to me. I don't want to take Kerfoot, and NSH has been actively beefing up their lineup of late. Smaller prospects like Hirvonen and Miettinen don't fit with the direction the Preds are heading in.
Oct. 25, 2021 at 8:12 a.m.
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Quoting: bhuntlol
its a deadline deal youre not gonna get much more for 20 games of a player


It’s more a question of fit.

Kerfoot does nothing for Nashville. Bottom 6 is overflowing with players competing to get to the NHL and Kerfoot isn’t a top 6 player.

As @gmgb pointed out, Nashville is trying to get bigger and more physical. We have some smaller prospects already
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Oct. 25, 2021 at 2:30 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
The pieces coming back aren't of much interest to me. I don't want to take Kerfoot, and NSH has been actively beefing up their lineup of late. Smaller prospects like Hirvonen and Miettinen don't fit with the direction the Preds are heading in.


yes cause the mentality of not drafting or trading for smaller players that are highly skilled cause they dont hit or arent big enough has worked for so many years in the NHL🤦🏻 probably the most braindead thing ive ever heard
Oct. 25, 2021 at 3:12 p.m.
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Quoting: bhuntlol
yes cause the mentality of not drafting or trading for smaller players that are highly skilled cause they dont hit or arent big enough has worked for so many years in the NHL🤦🏻 probably the most braindead thing ive ever heard


The irony of a Leafs fan advising on how to have NHL success aside, "highly skilled" is pretty subjective. We're talking about Hirvonen and Miettinen here, not Paul Kariya and Martin St. Louis. Even if they both pan out, these are a couple of guys with Rocco Grimaldi upside. Forgive me if that doesn't wow me in a trade where NSH gives up their best forward with max retention, and has to take an unwanted contract back too.
Oct. 25, 2021 at 9:53 p.m.
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Quoting: gmgb
The irony of a Leafs fan advising on how to have NHL success aside, "highly skilled" is pretty subjective. We're talking about Hirvonen and Miettinen here, not Paul Kariya and Martin St. Louis. Even if they both pan out, these are a couple of guys with Rocco Grimaldi upside. Forgive me if that doesn't wow me in a trade where NSH gives up their best forward with max retention, and has to take an unwanted contract back too.

its a deadline deal, what are the chances of forsberg re signing? slim to none? youre expecting to get back a martin st louis or paul kariya for a rental lmfao
Oct. 26, 2021 at 12:07 a.m.
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its a deadline deal, what are the chances of forsberg re signing? slim to none? youre expecting to get back a martin st louis or paul kariya for a rental lmfao



You misunderstand. I never said I was expecting a St. Louis or Kariya. I was illustrating that you're trying to sell the B and C prospects you're offering as "highly skilled".

I don't think NSH's chances of re-signing Forsberg are as slim as you think. Sure it's possible he might want a change of scenery. He's never brought it up, so we can't know. If it's mainly about money for him, NSH has more cap space to work with than most teams, and the tax advantage in Tennessee gives them a leg up over most of the league too. Personally, I think the Preds should sell on him, and keep going with the youth movement. I think they've selected the vets they want to help play with the kids (Ekholm, Granlund), and should keep amassing futures right now.

I think the absolute low end of acceptable deadline returns for a player like Forsberg should be at least a 1st and a prospect equal in value to Hirvonen (but one that suits NSH's needs better than him). That would be without NSH having to retain salary or take back an unwanted cap dump though. The 4th and Miettinen aren't incentive enough for the retention and Kerfoot, and the rest of the return is less than ideal to begin with.

Not that any of this matters much as, it's really not looking like TOR is going to be in a position to think about playoff rentals they can't afford anyway.
 
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