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Jun 22, 2017
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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>I mean, the one team that I could see giving up a 1st for Ellis is Carolina, and that's only if (and it's a big if) Hamilton leaves in UFA. Look at the clubs that potentially need a RHD. To me, Philly is more likely to go for one of Barrie or (less likely) Hamilton. Chicago's too deep into a retool to go after him. Boston's defensive needs are on the left, not right side. Although I'm sure that Dallas would love to move Heiskanen to his strong side, I don't think Dallas is in a position to give up a first for Ellis until they know for sure that this past season was a fluke. Tampa is infamously low on cap space. Winnipeg is the only one I can think of besides a Hamilton-less Carolina that would be a candidate to give up a 1st.</div></div>
I wouldn't rule out Philly so quickly. I'm sure there'd be interest from other teams you haven't mentioned too, like EDM, ARZ, TOR, BUF, etc. I think you're underestimating his value around the league.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>Here are some of my thoughts --
The RFA's are for the most part overpaid here. I'd go Tolvanen 2 x $2.5m, Fabbro 3 x $2.75m (maybe even a 1 year prove-it deal at like 1 x $1.5m or something -- I haven't loved what I've seen from him this year), and Saros 5 x $5m (basically the Lehner deal)
I also don't think this team needs a $2m Gudbranson riding the bench when they have other defenseman like Davies, Benning (disregarding the PHI trade here), and others that can play.
As for letting SEA select Ellis, that would be really, really bad asset management. If NSH decides they don't want him then the move is to trade him -- not let him walk for free. He is a valuable asset that would be able to get you major assets to help the re-tool that your looking to do.
The PHI trade is definitely too pricey for Patrick. I'm not opposed to taking a flyer (lol) on the guy, but he doesn't have much value right now -- definitely not 2x 2nds, a good prospect, plus serviceable depth on cheap contracts.
The SJS trade is interesting, but I don't really know if I can see Karlsson getting back to form. If he did, a Josi and Karlsson blueline would be crazy offensive, but I'm not holding my breath. It's an interesting idea, but NSH takes on the more expensive and longer contract. I just don't really know if that Karlsson contract is tradeable at this point, even with that retention. Though an Ekholm-Karlsson d pairing in his prime would've been the best pair in hockey!</div></div>
I missed the Gudbranson re-signing. Yeah, he's unnecessary.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockyluv21</b></div><div>I wouldn't want Seattle to take Jarnkrok for free, though. I think it's considerably more likely that you could get a first for Jarnkrok's bargain hit next season than for Ellis' somewhat-expensive long-term deal, if they somehow fall out of the playoff radar next year. I'm just of the view that cap space has value, too, especially if you don't have to give up a draft pick in order to clear it.</div></div>
Ellis has considerably more trade value than Jarnkrok. A 2nd+ seems reasonable for Jarnkrok, but I think a 1st is pushing it (maybe at the trade deadline). Ellis should easily fetch more than a 1st.