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MacKinnon

Created by: BurnEmUp
Team: 2017-18 Calgary Flames
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 4, 2017
Published: Apr. 6, 2017
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Treliving pulls another rabbit out of the hat at the draft like he did at the 2015 draft (Hamilton)
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,125,000
3$1,100,000
3$1,800,000
1$950,000
2$650,000
2$650,000
1$650,000
2$650,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,500,000
3$4,500,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Bennett, Sam
  2. Kylington, Oliver
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2017 1st round pick (CGY)
2.
CGY
    Expansion Draft Pick
    3.
    CGY
      2017 7th round pick (VGK)
      VGK
      1. Wotherspoon, Tyler
      Additional Details:
      2017 7th round pick (CGY)
      Side deal to have Vegas take Brouwer in expansion draft
      Buyouts
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2018
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      2019
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      2020
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$73,000,000$64,541,233$660,000$1,670,000$8,458,767
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      $6,750,000$6,750,000
      LW
      UFA - 5
      $6,375,000$6,375,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 6
      $6,300,000$6,300,000
      C
      UFA - 6
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      RW
      UFA - 2
      $3,575,000$3,575,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      $4,300,000$4,300,000
      LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      $1,800,000$1,800,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 2
      $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
      C, LW
      UFA - 1
      $950,000$950,000
      RW, C
      UFA - 2
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      C, LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $3,125,000$3,125,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      $1,100,000$1,100,000
      RW
      UFA - 1
      $612,500$612,500
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      $650,000$650,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      $3,375,000$3,375,000
      LD
      NTC
      UFA - 5
      $5,750,000$5,750,000
      RD
      UFA - 4
      $4,500,000$4,500,000
      G
      UFA - 2
      $4,650,400$4,650,400
      LD/RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 3
      $650,000$650,000
      LD/RD
      UFA - 1
      $755,833$755,833 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
      RD
      UFA - 3
      $650,000$650,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      $612,500$612,500
      RD
      UFA - 1

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      Apr. 6, 2017 at 4:49 p.m.
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      Stop it. MacKinnon isnt available. This trade does nothing for the Avs
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 4:52 p.m.
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      Why would they do this?
      This would not help at all for the Avs
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 5:34 p.m.
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      Quoting: coga16
      Stop it. MacKinnon isnt available. This trade does nothing for the Avs


      A lot of things the Avs have done lately have done nothing for them. They're last place in the West by 30 points.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 5:35 p.m.
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      Edited Apr. 6, 2017 at 5:52 p.m.
      Quoting: BurnEmUp


      A lot of things the Avs have done lately have done nothing for them. They're last place in the West by 30 points.


      So trading their best players and franchise Center for pennies on the dollar is going to help them? Its not a good trade man,

      Bennett is struggling and not looking like a top 6 player at the moment. Kylington is having a decent AHL season but chances are he will be a 2nd pairing NHL Dman once all things considered and a late first round pick in a down draft year?

      Yup thats hot value
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 5:51 p.m.
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      Vegas would probably select Bouma in my opinion.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 6:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: coga16
      Stop it. MacKinnon isnt available. This trade does nothing for the Avs


      The Hockey News Rumour Roundup referenced Jim Matheson as stating the Avs are willing to listen to offers on MacKinnon.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 6:24 p.m.
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      Quoting: coga16


      So trading their best players and franchise Center for pennies on the dollar is going to help them? Its not a good trade man,

      Bennett is struggling and not looking like a top 6 player at the moment. Kylington is having a decent AHL season but chances are he will be a 2nd pairing NHL Dman once all things considered and a late first round pick in a down draft year?

      Yup thats hot value


      It's a trade that is in favor of the Flames, especially in the short term. Maybe in the long term it swings the other way, which is why there are multiple assets going to the Avs in this proposal. This is why my description clearly says "Treliving pulls another rabbit out of the hat, ala Dougie Hamilton"

      Do I think the Avs trade MacKinnon? No
      If they do surprise us, would they trade him for a futures package like this? Probably not.
      If they did it would most likely be for a top 2 left handed defenseman, so a more "realistic" proposal from me would have been MacKinnon for Brodie.

      But it's a fantasy board and I wanted to have some fun and see what the roster would look like if Treliving did the impossible again, sue me.

      At least I gave value in the deal. A "Brayden Schenn circa 2012" high level center prospect, one of our best young D prospects and our highest pick we have available.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 6:41 p.m.
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      Quoting: Banks


      The Hockey News Rumour Roundup referenced Jim Matheson as stating the Avs are willing to listen to offers on MacKinnon.


      I am aware of that, and Jim Matheson is speculating based on his previous work....why would an edmonton beat writer be talking about MacKinnon to NHL execs or would they be going to him vs going to Friedmans/McKenzies, etc....its bc its low level sources at best and probably just speculation.

      Thats the reason why all the Avs beat writers laughed when the looked into it and why no other NHL insider has actually looked into it. Bc Matheson has been writing about how the Avs can be like the Oilers if they do a Hall for Larsson trade. He has been harping on that narrative for a few months now.

      Its been a week since Matheson first put out that piece. Why hasn't any other credible hockey coverage picked up the "reports". Or why hasn't hockey news been retweeting it. Probably bc once they actually look into t they see there is nothing but crazy Jim Matheson looking for attention again
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 6:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: BurnEmUp
      Quoting: coga16


      So trading their best players and franchise Center for pennies on the dollar is going to help them? Its not a good trade man,

      Bennett is struggling and not looking like a top 6 player at the moment. Kylington is having a decent AHL season but chances are he will be a 2nd pairing NHL Dman once all things considered and a late first round pick in a down draft year?

      Yup thats hot value


      It's a trade that is in favor of the Flames, especially in the short term. Maybe in the long term it swings the other way, which is why there are multiple assets going to the Avs in this proposal. This is why my description clearly says "Treliving pulls another rabbit out of the hat, ala Dougie Hamilton"

      Do I think the Avs trade MacKinnon? No
      If they do surprise us, would they trade him for a futures package like this? Probably not.
      If they did it would most likely be for a top 2 left handed defenseman, so a more "realistic" proposal from me would have been MacKinnon for Brodie.

      But it's a fantasy board and I wanted to have some fun and see what the roster would look like if Treliving did the impossible again, sue me.

      At least I gave value in the deal. A "Brayden Schenn circa 2012" high level center prospect, one of our best young D prospects and our highest pick we have available.


      I dont even think Brodie for MacKinnon gets the job done. Nothing against Brodie but hes too old to part with MacKinnon. You dont trade a 22 year old C in the first year of a long term contract for a 26-27 year old Dman with 3 years left on his contract. You are getting the tailing years out of TJ vs the prime years.

      Seth Jones style trade is the only thing that makes sense. 21-22 year old Dman for MacKinnon of equal value and importance.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 6:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: coga16


      I am aware of that, and Jim Matheson is speculating based on his previous work....why would an edmonton beat writer be talking about MacKinnon to NHL execs or would they be going to him vs going to Friedmans/McKenzies, etc....its bc its low level sources at best and probably just speculation.

      Thats the reason why all the Avs beat writers laughed when the looked into it and why no other NHL insider has actually looked into it. Bc Matheson has been writing about how the Avs can be like the Oilers if they do a Hall for Larsson trade. He has been harping on that narrative for a few months now.

      Its been a week since Matheson first put out that piece. Why hasn't any other credible hockey coverage picked up the "reports". Or why hasn't hockey news been retweeting it. Probably bc once they actually look into t they see there is nothing but crazy Jim Matheson looking for attention again


      And you're speculating that Matheson is speculating.

      People can post MacKinnon trade attempts or ideas if they so please.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 6:55 p.m.
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      I dont even think Brodie for MacKinnon gets the job done. Nothing against Brodie but hes too old to part with MacKinnon. You dont trade a 22 year old C in the first year of a long term contract for a 26-27 year old Dman with 3 years left on his contract. You are getting the tailing years out of TJ vs the prime years.

      Seth Jones style trade is the only thing that makes sense. 21-22 year old Dman for MacKinnon of equal value and importance.


      Flames probably add to Brodie to get that done, and because of age like you said. However, I disagree with you when you say Brodie is at the "tailing years". For A Dman he is just getting into his prime.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 7:15 p.m.
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      Quoting: BurnEmUp
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      I dont even think Brodie for MacKinnon gets the job done. Nothing against Brodie but hes too old to part with MacKinnon. You dont trade a 22 year old C in the first year of a long term contract for a 26-27 year old Dman with 3 years left on his contract. You are getting the tailing years out of TJ vs the prime years.

      Seth Jones style trade is the only thing that makes sense. 21-22 year old Dman for MacKinnon of equal value and importance.


      Flames probably add to Brodie to get that done, and because of age like you said. However, I disagree with you when you say Brodie is at the "tailing years". For A Dman he is just getting into his prime.


      I didnt say he is at his tailing years, I said you are getting. 3 years left in his contract you are getting 29 and 30 year old Dman that you have to resign. You aren't getting the front load of his talented years, you are getting the back half when compared to the 8-10 years of MacKinnon entering those golden years till he is at that point that same point in his career as TJ is now.

      Thats why The Avs are looking at moving Duchene. At 26 he doesnt fit their time line with the new young core of MacK, Rants, Zads, Jost, and Compher. By the time those guys are ready and established int he NHL he will be a 30 year old needing new contract as well. You will just be treading water at that point.
      Apr. 6, 2017 at 7:16 p.m.
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      Edited Apr. 6, 2017 at 7:26 p.m.
      Quoting: Banks


      And you're speculating that Matheson is speculating.

      People can post MacKinnon trade attempts or ideas if they so please.


      Im not really speculating at all. When Av Beat writers on twitter scoff at it and say there is nothing to to it. I will take their word over an Edmonton Journal writer who's quality of work has gone down hill that even Edmonton Oiler fans and Bloggers dont take his work seriously.

      This is the same guy who said PK Subban isnt being traded so not a target for the Oilers....then boom is traded a week later. He kept on saying that he is hearing Barrie for Nugent-Hopkins last summer. I dont think he has the strongest sources
      Apr. 7, 2017 at 11:26 a.m.
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      Quoting: rangersandislesfan
      Vegas would probably select Bouma in my opinion.


      ??? Why would Vegas Take Bouma... Plays with lots of heart but thats all he brings... So many better choices including prospects (RFA)...
       
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