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Oilers forward group with Holloway

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Team: 2021-22 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 22, 2022
Published: Mar. 22, 2022
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This forward group is already nasty, if you add Holloway to the mix it's nastier
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23$81,500,000$80,668,164$669,339$1,307,500$831,836
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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LW, RW
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C
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RW
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
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RW
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$412,500$412,500
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, C
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C
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Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
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RD
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
G
M-NTC
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LD
NMC
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RD
RFA - 2
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G
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000
LD/RD
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LD/RD
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LD
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Mar. 22, 2022 at 3:38 p.m.
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I mean not terrible but I think a goaltender could have boosted this team to contenders. Even kakhkonen wouldve been an upgrade over current Mike Smith. Although I would love for last years Smith to return
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Mar. 22, 2022 at 3:41 p.m.
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The oilers forward group is mid. Adding Holloway makes it midder
Mar. 22, 2022 at 5:15 p.m.
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Quoting: mauston_atthews
The oilers forward group is mid. Adding Holloway makes it midder


Oilers are the 3rd highest scoring team in the 24 games since adding Kane. And Nugent-Hopkins (11 games missed), Puljujarvi (12), Kassian (13) and Archibald (20) have missed a significant number of games in that span. McDavid (1.38 P/GP) and Draisaitl (1.17 P/GP) have scored at less than their usual pace too. This team is likely top-3 down the stretch for offense.
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Mar. 22, 2022 at 6:46 p.m.
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Oilers are the 3rd highest scoring team in the 24 games since adding Kane. And Nugent-Hopkins (11 games missed), Puljujarvi (12), Kassian (13) and Archibald (20) have missed a significant number of games in that span. McDavid (1.38 P/GP) and Draisaitl (1.17 P/GP) have scored at less than their usual pace too. This team is likely top-3 down the stretch for offense.


I’d take the offence of Tampa, Colorado, Toronto, Boston, Florida, Calgary, Pittsburgh and Carolina all over Edmonton. They are not top 3. Every team has streaks like that throughout a season. I look at that forward group and just don’t see how it stacks up against any of the above teams. They’re good offensively don’t get me wrong, but not top 3.
Mar. 23, 2022 at 8:33 a.m.
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I’d take the offence of Tampa, Colorado, Toronto, Boston, Florida, Calgary, Pittsburgh and Carolina all over Edmonton. They are not top 3. Every team has streaks like that throughout a season. I look at that forward group and just don’t see how it stacks up against any of the above teams. They’re good offensively don’t get me wrong, but not top 3.

Here's one way to measure it: I took the top 9 forwards by P/GP for each team you mentioned and added their P/GP together (minimum 20 GP). Here's what I got:

FLA: 8.18
COL: 7.77
TOR: 7.48
EDM: 7.05
PIT: 6.92
TBL: 6.53
CGY: 6.21
BOS: 6.03
CAR: 5.76

Even among these teams, Edmonton is in the top tier.

These are full season results according to NHL.com.
Mar. 23, 2022 at 8:42 a.m.
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I’d take the offence of Tampa, Colorado, Toronto, Boston, Florida, Calgary, Pittsburgh and Carolina all over Edmonton. They are not top 3. Every team has streaks like that throughout a season. I look at that forward group and just don’t see how it stacks up against any of the above teams. They’re good offensively don’t get me wrong, but not top 3.


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Here's one way to measure it: I took the top 9 forwards by P/GP for each team you mentioned and added their P/GP together (minimum 20 GP). Here's what I got:

FLA: 8.18
COL: 7.77
TOR: 7.48
EDM: 7.05
PIT: 6.92
TBL: 6.53
CGY: 6.21
BOS: 6.03
CAR: 5.76

Even among these teams, Edmonton is in the top tier.

These are full season results according to NHL.com.

Keep in mind that McDavid is having his worst P/GP season in 4 years and Draisaitl is having his worst in 3 years. If they start producing according to normal standards, look out.

Actually, McDavid has already started his annual stretch drive with 14 points in his past 7 games. Should be fun to watch for the next 18 games!
Mar. 23, 2022 at 8:54 a.m.
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Here's one way to measure it: I took the top 9 forwards by P/GP for each team you mentioned and added their P/GP together (minimum 20 GP). Here's what I got:

FLA: 8.18
COL: 7.77
TOR: 7.48
EDM: 7.05
PIT: 6.92
TBL: 6.53
CGY: 6.21
BOS: 6.03
CAR: 5.76

Even among these teams, Edmonton is in the top tier.

These are full season results according to NHL.com.


U see the problem with that is is that it’s mcdavid and draisaitl making up a large portion of that. I’d take all of those teams’ offences over Edmonton because they have more spread out scoring. You need that in the playoffs. You saw it first hand against Winnipeg. Mcdavid and draisaitl did not score the same way they did in the regular season. They were defended harder against and when it was time for the rest of the team to step up, they didn’t. You’re cherry picking stats to prove your point and it’s not working. Lol u didn’t even do top 12 forwards, only top 9 bc u know that will include more of mcdrai’s scoring. The oilers have 2 of the top scorers rn, and are only 7th in goals lmao. You’d think a team with that would at least be top 3 in goals.
Mar. 23, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.
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U see the problem with that is is that it’s mcdavid and draisaitl making up a large portion of that. I’d take all of those teams’ offences over Edmonton because they have more spread out scoring. You need that in the playoffs. You saw it first hand against Winnipeg. Mcdavid and draisaitl did not score the same way they did in the regular season. They were defended harder against and when it was time for the rest of the team to step up, they didn’t. You’re cherry picking stats to prove your point and it’s not working. Lol u didn’t even do top 12 forwards, only top 9 bc u know that will include more of mcdrai’s scoring. The oilers have 2 of the top scorers rn, and are only 7th in goals lmao. You’d think a team with that would at least be top 3 in goals.

First, Edmonton has McDavid and Draisaitl, that's their advantage. Why would you take those guys off the list? Should we remove Matthews and Marner from Toronto's list? Nonsense.

Second, McDavid and Draisaitl play on different lines. Most if these teams load up their first line (Boston, Calgary, Tampa, even Toronto and Colorado to a certain extent), so that point is moot.

Third, here is a sample of playoff production last year:
Draisaitl: 1.25 P/GP
McDavid: 1.00
Matthews: 0.71
Marner: 0.57

LOL

Fourth, here are the top 12 players on each team, as per the above criteria:

FLA: 9.23
COL: 8.49
TOR: 8.44
PIT: 7.88
EDM: 7.85
TBL: 7.35
CGY,: 6.87
BOS: 6.84
CAR: 6.69
Mar. 23, 2022 at 9:19 a.m.
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U see the problem with that is is that it’s mcdavid and draisaitl making up a large portion of that. I’d take all of those teams’ offences over Edmonton because they have more spread out scoring. You need that in the playoffs. You saw it first hand against Winnipeg. Mcdavid and draisaitl did not score the same way they did in the regular season. They were defended harder against and when it was time for the rest of the team to step up, they didn’t. You’re cherry picking stats to prove your point and it’s not working. Lol u didn’t even do top 12 forwards, only top 9 bc u know that will include more of mcdrai’s scoring. The oilers have 2 of the top scorers rn, and are only 7th in goals lmao. You’d think a team with that would at least be top 3 in goals.


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Oilers are the 3rd highest scoring team in the 24 games since adding Kane. And Nugent-Hopkins (11 games missed), Puljujarvi (12), Kassian (13) and Archibald (20) have missed a significant number of games in that span. McDavid (1.38 P/GP) and Draisaitl (1.17 P/GP) have scored at less than their usual pace too. This team is likely top-3 down the stretch for offense.

Read for comprehension.
Mar. 23, 2022 at 4:17 p.m.
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Read for comprehension.


Fine just ignore EVERYTHING ELSE I SAID before that. I meant in the whole season. Every team has hot streaks like that. Cherry picking stats to prove a point says that ur team doesn’t have much going for it lol. I understand what you’re trying to tell me bc ur team added Kane and has been good since then, but that’s 24 games.
Mar. 23, 2022 at 4:26 p.m.
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Fine just ignore EVERYTHING ELSE I SAID before that. I meant in the whole season. Every team has hot streaks like that. Cherry picking stats to prove a point says that ur team doesn’t have much going for it lol. I understand what you’re trying to tell me bc ur team added Kane and has been good since then, but that’s 24 games.

I responded to that entire post. See post #8.
Mar. 23, 2022 at 4:35 p.m.
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First, Edmonton has McDavid and Draisaitl, that's their advantage. Why would you take those guys off the list? Should we remove Matthews and Marner from Toronto's list? Nonsense.

Second, McDavid and Draisaitl play on different lines. Most if these teams load up their first line (Boston, Calgary, Tampa, even Toronto and Colorado to a certain extent), so that point is moot.

Third, here is a sample of playoff production last year:
Draisaitl: 1.25 P/GP
McDavid: 1.00
Matthews: 0.71
Marner: 0.57

LOL

Fourth, here are the top 12 players on each team, as per the above criteria:

FLA: 9.23
COL: 8.49
TOR: 8.44
PIT: 7.88
EDM: 7.85
TBL: 7.35
CGY,: 6.87
BOS: 6.84
CAR: 6.69


U completely missed my point lol. I’m not taking out mcdavid and draisaitl, im including them along with the rest of the oilers team. The team doesn’t have enough depth scoring and that’s why I’d take the other teams’ offences over the oilers. Then u just decide to show me playoff stats of the marner and Matthews for some reason as if I don’t know they’ve struggled in the playoffs. I mentioned mcdrai’s playoff stats last year, and u further proved my point lol. They score a little bit off what they did in the regular season, and the team gets swept and struggled to score.
 
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