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Vegas Offloading Plan Assistance Trade

Created by: jassan28
Team: 2022-23 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: May 10, 2022
Published: May 11, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$6,975,000
2$2,125,000
2$2,000,000
2$900,000
2$2,125,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,000,000
2$1,250,000
2$1,050,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Marchessault, Jonathan
  2. Patrick, Nolan
  3. Roy, Nicolas [RFA Rights]
  4. 2023 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Brown, Connor ($1,700,000 retained)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$79,455,714$0$4,025,000$3,044,286
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$6,975,000$6,975,000
C
UFA - 8
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 6
$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$600,000$600K)
C
RFA - 1
$2,125,000$2,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,125,000$2,125,000
LW
RFA
$1,050,000$1,050,000
C, LW
UFA
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$900,000$900,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 11, 2022 at 10:03 a.m.
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I've looked a lot of far out trades from the Knights on here but this might be the worst serious one I've seen yet
May 11, 2022 at 10:13 a.m.
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Okay, CBrown is worth 1st. with Retention, call that 1st+.

16OA might be a bit high to consider that 1st+, but for the sake of simplicity lets say so.

So the trade is then

Roy + Marchessault + Patrick for a 2nd?

Thats a ROUGH offer. Laughable.
May 11, 2022 at 12:11 p.m.
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Okay, CBrown is worth 1st. with Retention, call that 1st+.

16OA might be a bit high to consider that 1st+, but for the sake of simplicity lets say so.

So the trade is then

Roy + Marchessault + Patrick for a 2nd?

Thats a ROUGH offer. Laughable.


What 16th OA? The pick is for 2023


2023 1st round pick (VGK) + Patrick, Nolan for Brown, Connor ($1,700,000 retained)

Roy, Nicolas + Marchessault, Jonathan for 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

Yeah that 2nd part doesn't work as Marchessault is NOT a cap dump. Removing Roy would get it closer but even then, Marchessault has comfortably more value than a 2nd
May 11, 2022 at 3:56 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
What 16th OA? The pick is for 2023


2023 1st round pick (VGK) + Patrick, Nolan for Brown, Connor ($1,700,000 retained)

Roy, Nicolas + Marchessault, Jonathan for 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

Yeah that 2nd part doesn't work as Marchessault is NOT a cap dump. Removing Roy would get it closer but even then, Marchessault has comfortably more value than a 2nd


Teams won't easily help a GM in cap troubles go out easy. Cap dumps would take picks going the other way and Marchessault is over 30 on a 5 million cap hit with a team that has Eichel, Stone, Pathces, and more. Arizona can make an easier deal for the Knights but they are in the same division and helping out your potential rivals makes little sense. Rielly Smith and Dadonov are other tradeable names. Martinez would be costly to trade with picks going the other way and losing a D man
May 12, 2022 at 10:31 a.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
What 16th OA? The pick is for 2023


2023 1st round pick (VGK) + Patrick, Nolan for Brown, Connor ($1,700,000 retained)

Roy, Nicolas + Marchessault, Jonathan for 2023 2nd round pick (OTT)

Yeah that 2nd part doesn't work as Marchessault is NOT a cap dump. Removing Roy would get it closer but even then, Marchessault has comfortably more value than a 2nd


My bad, I thought I read 2022 1st.
May 12, 2022 at 1:23 p.m.
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Teams won't easily help a GM in cap troubles go out easy. Cap dumps would take picks going the other way and Marchessault is over 30 on a 5 million cap hit with a team that has Eichel, Stone, Pathces, and more. Arizona can make an easier deal for the Knights but they are in the same division and helping out your potential rivals makes little sense. Rielly Smith and Dadonov are other tradeable names. Martinez would be costly to trade with picks going the other way and losing a D man


Yes but for Dadonov or Karlsson, not Marchessault

I can guarantee you that teams would pay positive assets for Marchessault if he was made available. I'd take him on Ottawa in a heartbeat if he could be had for a 2nd

Marchessault - Stutzle - Batherson
Tkachuk - Norris - Joseph
Formenton - Pinto - Brown

Pretty damn good Top-9 if everyone is healthy
 
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