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Pay Johnny Big Money He Is Better Than Panarin

Created by: CementHead27
Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: May 27, 2022
Published: May 27, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Realistic Flames fans know he is gone. If he wanted to stay for 8 years in Calgary why isn’t that a done deal right now?
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,250,000
4$1,750,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$12,000,000
2$2,250,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Nemec, Simon
3$925,000
Trades
1.
NJD
ARI
  1. Johnsson, Andreas
  2. 2022 3rd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
Anywhere for a cheap cap dump
2.
NJD
  1. 2022 3rd round pick (DAL)
  2. 2023 5th round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Wood, Miles [RFA Rights]
3.
NJD
  1. 2022 2nd round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Zacha, Pavel [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Replacement for Nino
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2022
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2023
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2024
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22$82,500,000$75,455,000$0$1,732,500$7,045,000
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Gaudreau, Johnny
$12,000,000$12,000,000
LW
UFA - 7
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Hughes, Jack
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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Waivers ExemptHoltz, Alexander
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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Bratt, Jesper
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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Hischier, Nico
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 5
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Mercer, Dawson
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
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Sharangovich, Yegor
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Boqvist, Jesper
$1,750,000$1,750,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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Bastian, Nathan
$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 1
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Tatar, Tomas
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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McLeod, Michael
$975,000$975,000
C
RFA - 1
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Zetterlund, Fabian
$950,000$950,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Graves, Ryan
$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 1
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Hamilton, Dougie
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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Blackwood, Mackenzie
$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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Siegenthaler, Jonas
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Severson, Damon
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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Bahl, Kevin
$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
Nemec, Simon
$925,000$925,000
Wedgewood, Scott
$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Smith, Ty
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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Bernier, Jonathan
$4,125,000$4,125,000
G
UFA - 1
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Kuokkanen, Janne
$1,825,000$1,825,000
LW, C
UFA - 1

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May 27, 2022 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Ask yourself if he’ll be worth that much money in year 3-7 of that deal. His age 32-36 seasons.


Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Ask yourself if he’ll be worth that much money in year 3-7 of that deal. His age 32-36 seasons.


Sure. Chicago fans know that when they paid out a huge contract to Hossa and they got 3 cups out of it
May 27, 2022 at 2:08 p.m.
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Didn’t they do that already with Dougie?

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Don’t sign the best UFA and a top 10 player in the league? That’s a weird thing to not want
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May 27, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Didn’t they do that already with Dougie?


He isn’t a top 10 player in the league! It’s debatable if he’s even a top 10 defenceman right now
May 27, 2022 at 2:09 p.m.
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Not what I heard all off season

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He isn’t a top 10 player in the league! It’s debatable if he’s even a top 10 defenceman right now
May 27, 2022 at 2:18 p.m.
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Quoting: CementHead27
Sure. Chicago fans know that when they paid out a huge contract to Hossa and they got 3 cups out of it


Now do all the others
May 27, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
Now do all the others


Which others? How many times has a player who did finished second in scoring hit free agency? There are plenty of bad contracts you can point to that weren’t justified but none of them are this situation
May 27, 2022 at 2:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac555
Not what I heard all off season


Then you heard from some people who were living in lala land because Dougie Hamilton never was a top 10 player in the entire league.
May 27, 2022 at 3:03 p.m.
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Correct - devils fans

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Then you heard from some people who were living in lala land because Dougie Hamilton never was a top 10 player in the entire league.
May 27, 2022 at 6:05 p.m.
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Quoting: HeadHighSauce
He’s also what, 24 or 25?


And?
May 27, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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And Chicago paying out a huge contract to Hossa at the same age sure was a bad idea by that logic, but I’d take those 3 cups and happily be where they are now. It’s about winning and Johnny is a big game player. The Flames have very few of them too but he is one. Whoever gets him is going to be lucky and the Devils have some really young skilled players. This team is going to be good very soon but the question is how good? Where would Chicago have been without Hossa? We don’t know but I bet their glad they have those 3 cups and he was a huge part of it.


And if the league changes the rules back to when you could sign a guy on a backloaded 12 year contract to keep the cap hit down to that of a mediocre second liner….by all means do it. But they won’t, so this is a bad idea.
May 27, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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Sure. Chicago fans know that when they paid out a huge contract to Hossa and they got 3 cups out of it

This is truly horrid comparison.
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May 27, 2022 at 6:24 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
This is truly horrid comparison.


It’s not though? Whether it’s 12 years or 6/7 years at a higher cap hit the money is the money. It doesn’t change.
May 27, 2022 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: CMcAvoy73
And?


Maybe I misunderstood. Was saying he deserves his money over Gaudreau because he’s younger and will be worth it for the whole contract.
May 28, 2022 at 12:22 a.m.
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It’s not though? Whether it’s 12 years or 6/7 years at a higher cap hit the money is the money. It doesn’t change.


Lol what? Who the hell cares about the money. The money isn’t the money. The cap is the cap. One thing is finite, the other is theoretically unlimited. Hossa signed for ballpark 9% of the salary cap. This deal is what? 14.5%?

Unless you’re an owner you shouldn’t give a crap about salary.
May 28, 2022 at 12:23 a.m.
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Maybe I misunderstood. Was saying he deserves his money over Gaudreau because he’s younger and will be worth it for the whole contract.


Ya. Why you quoting me? Never said anything to refute that.
May 28, 2022 at 12:47 a.m.
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Lol what? Who the hell cares about the money. The money isn’t the money. The cap is the cap. One thing is finite, the other is theoretically unlimited. Hossa signed for ballpark 9% of the salary cap. This deal is what? 14.5%?

Unless you’re an owner you shouldn’t give a crap about salary.


The person who cares about the money is the person who matters the most in the whole conversation, the player. You make the cap work if the player is good enough and this is one of those rare players.
May 28, 2022 at 12:56 a.m.
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The person who cares about the money is the person who matters the most in the whole conversation, the player. You make the cap work if the player is good enough and this is one of those rare players.


Right. So in Hossas case, the team made the money more than the cap hit. You can’t do that anymore. That’s why its a really bad example. The rules changed.

The contract proposed here is 84 million with an 82.5 million cap.

Hossas deal was 63 million with a 56 million dollar cap. Higher pay, right? Except one guys % of the cap was 9%, and the other is 14.5%. See how its a completely different conversation?
May 28, 2022 at 7:32 a.m.
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Ya. Why you quoting me? Never said anything to refute that.


Was agreeing with you.
 
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