Tkachuk again

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Created by: Kalilwayne

Team: 2022-23 Vegas Golden Knights

Initial Creation Date: Jul. 21, 2022

Published: Jul. 21, 2022

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For the record, I don't think VGK should do this and I don't think they will but half the moves that they've made were moves I didn't expect them to make. That said, this is how I would try to get it done.

Roy should probably be in the $3m-$4m range but with Stephenson signed to $2.75m I could see him signing in that general price range as a bridge contract.

Hague is another player that should make more but since he doesn't have any arbitration rights he may be forced to sign an offer sheet or a lower rate on a short deal. An offer sheet is a very good possibility but he would probably have to weigh tax implications when deciding on a team to sign with and may chose to stay with familiarity and push his value up much higher by the time he becomes a UFA.

The Tkachuk trade was based off of the trade for Eichel (Tuch, Krebs, 1st & 2nd). Obviously Tuch's age and contract made him much more attractive than Karlsson, but Karlsson's two way ability gets us at least in the same ballpark. My guess is that VGK may need to throw in another piece (Korczak or Dorofeyev?)

Martinez would be a great mentor and D partner for Seider as Detroit looks to turn the corner and would probably relish the chance to finish his career close to home.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Roy, Nicolas	3	$2,500,000
Hague, Nicolas	2	$1,500,000
Kolesar, Keegan	2	$1,000,000
Tkachuk, Matthew	8	$9,500,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Stastny, Paul		1	$2,500,000
Rodrigues, Evan		3	$2,500,000

Trades

VGK

Tkachuk, Matthew [RFA Rights]

CGY

Brisson, Brendan
Karlsson, William
2023 1st round pick (VGK)
2024 3rd round pick (VGK)

VGK

2024 6th round pick (CHI)

CHI

Brossoit, Laurent

VGK

2023 3rd round pick (DET)

DET

Martinez, Alec
2023 5th round pick (VGK)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$82,500,000	$82,418,334	$0	$132,500	$81,666

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Matthew $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW UFA - 8	Eichel, Jack $10,000,000$10,000,000 C NMC UFA - 4	Stone, Mark $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 5
Marchessault, Jonathan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Stastny, Paul $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Stephenson, Chandler $2,750,000$2,750,000 C, LW UFA - 2	Roy, Nicolas $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, RW UFA - 5	Rodrigues, Evan $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, C UFA - 1
Carrier, William $1,400,000$1,400,000 LW UFA - 2	Howden, Brett $1,500,000$1,500,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Kolesar, Keegan $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
	Pietrangelo, Alex $8,800,000$8,800,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Lehner, Robin $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 3
McNabb, Brayden $2,850,000$2,850,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Theodore, Shea $5,200,000$5,200,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Thompson, Logan $766,667$766,667 G UFA - 3
Hague, Nicolas $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD RFA - 3	Whitecloud, Zach $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 6
Hutton, Ben $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Amadio, Michael $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 2		Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 4
Korczak, Kaedan $789,167$789,167 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 2		Patrick, Nolan $1,200,000$1,200,000 C, RW UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tkachuk, M.		Eichel, J.		Stone, M.
	Stephenson, C.		Pietrangelo, A.

Power Play 2
Marchessault, J.		Stastny, P.		Smith, R.
	Roy, N.		Theodore, S.

Penalty Kill 1
	Roy, N.	Smith, R.
	McNabb, B.	Whitecloud, Z.

Penalty Kill 2
	Stephenson, C.	Stone, M.
	Hutton, B.	Pietrangelo, A.

Jul. 21, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.

mokumboi

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That offer does not get Tkachuk.

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Jul. 21, 2022 at 4:44 p.m.

Kalilwayne

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Quoting: mokumboi

That offer does not get Tkachuk.

I tend to agree but this is what we always say about trades like this before they happen and right after they become official we all say, "That's it?"

Like I mentioned, I used the Eichel trade as the standard. Tuch being more valuable than Karlsson leads me to believe that VGK would have to add another prospect but I do thing we're at least in the ballpark.

Jul. 21, 2022 at 4:49 p.m.

mokumboi

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Quoting: Kalilwayne

The trades you refer to probably don't match the situation, on several levels. And that's before we even get to the questions it raises: Does Karlsson have Calgary on his NTC list? Would Tkachuk really sign long term in Vegas? Does Calgary view Karlsson as anything more than an onerous contract at this point? We're now into a lot of ifs and a lot of stretches. It adds up. And then on top of that, they'd have to wrangle the cap clearing. You seem to hope it will be quite painless. I think that recent experience should warn you otherwise. And so it keeps adding up and adding up...

Jul. 21, 2022 at 5:04 p.m.

Kalilwayne

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Quoting: mokumboi

Those are all very good questions that don't really need to be answered in a hypothetical world because these are just exercises in possibilities. Your point about cap clearing is very important though. I had a feeling that Pacioretty would be moved but I thought that he would have some sort of positive value given his performance and the fact that his contract has only one year left on his deal. I was incredibly wrong about that.

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Jul. 21, 2022 at 8:23 p.m.

IDKtbh

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Quoting: Kalilwayne

Yeah, maybe in a ballpark on Jupiter.

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