First round and out. Then again that’s basically where the Pens have been

They didn't add Rakell though - he was already on the team.

And Erod/Heinen are significantly better than Poehling and OConner

I mean, they would have gone past the first round this year if it wasn’t for some extremely unlucky injuries. And this team is probably better than last years

I don’t see it. Old teams don’t win cups

I hate that mentality so much

What? Facts? Teams as old as your team are not cup winning teams. It’s a fact not a mentality.

It’s not a fact lol. It’s impossible to know who’s going to win the cup. Just because a team is old doesn’t mean they have no chance.

Tampa was the 2nd oldest team last year and they almost three-peated.

Tampa has Point at 26, Vas at 27, Sergachev at 24, Cernak 25, Cirelli 25, and Kuch at 29. Hedman and Stamkos are the old guys in that core of players but they’re 32 and 31. Crosby is 35. Malkin 36. Letang 35. Petry is 35. Where’s your core? Guentzel is in his prime and so is Jarry but who else? Rust and Rakell are still within that scope of prime years I suppose but at the back end of them. You see this isn’t the same thing now?

Yeah Crosby is 35 and point is 26, but Crosby is still miles better than point. Did you watch the first round? Crosby was the most dominant player on the ice every time he stepped on.

Letang was like 7th in Norris voting last year.

Malkin put up a 40+ goal, 80+ point pace coming off of a major surgery with scrubs for linemates.

Petry put up 21 points in 30 games once MSL took over.

These guys can still play. The rest of the core is still young enough where age is no concern in the short term: guentzel, Jarry, rust, rakell.

So I ask you, instead of re-signing Malkin and Letang, and trading for Petry. Should we have acquired younger and worse players? Sure these guys may be awful in 3 years but they were the best options in the short term - and that is this teams goal. Short term success.

How does Mike Sullivan coach his team? How do the Pens play the game? This isn’t the 2008 Red Wings under Babcock who played a perfect game for older players. Your time is built entirely off of skating. Unless there’s going to be a major change to how the team approaches the season they’ll be gased