I'd be really happy with this and I'm not even a Gopher fan. Don't think the Leafs do it though, Knies is probably their best prospect.

Yeah I can't imagine Knies is available for anything less than a very high end piece.

Just had the idea because we know Dubas has tried to trade for Dumba in the past and he loves his Soo players.

I've been sitting on a post for 4-5 days now for a Dumba to Toronto trade but I can't really figure out a good package for a deal. I wouldn't mind adding Kerfoot as one of the pieces, but other than that there's just not much I think Toronto would be willing to part with that's worth it for us. I like Sandin but we'd be adding if he were a piece and we already have a ton of LD in our system. They don't own a 2nd this year but Dumba with retention for Kerfoot and a 2nd doesn't seem too far off.

I know, I've had the same thoughts. I can't find anything that really enthuses either team, but there's probably a lukewarm package that works for both parties. Like you said, Dumba with retention for Kerfoot + futures piece is a pretty conceivable framework.

I have a hunch that Guerin and Dubas have had a few things they've kicked tires on - Dumba, probably Talbot. They seem open to business if there's a fit.

They don't happen often, but maybe there's a 3-way trade to be made here where Sandin goes to a 3rd team, Toronto gets Dumba and some of the Sandin return, and the Wild get part of the Sandin return? Anaheim or the Kings could be a pretty good candidate for that 3rd team, they both need defenseman. I'm don't think the Kings have a ton of space though.

Spitballing here: does a swap involving Sandin to the Kings, Vilardi to the Wild, and Dumba and another asset to the Leafs make sense?

That's an interesting thought. I definitely think you're keying on the right teams/needs. I think there's probably a package to be built - i'm not sure on the filler that would be needed to balance for everyone, but it is a pretty compelling idea.

I have mentioned it before, but I go to school with a family member of his at Augsburg U in Minnesota and there's no need to give up an asset for player not signing with Toronto. Judd brackett and Guerin didn't want Faber for no reason.

I'm not sure I follow what you're saying. You don't think Knies is signing in Toronto according to a family member of his that you go to school with?

Yeah, I have posted this here before. Let me just say I have it on good authority he's not signing with Toronto. I have also seen this family member interact with matthew before on numerous occasions. Alot of rich families kids, or people who wants to hid ; shelter them such as kirby puckett jr's kid played baseball for augsburg university.

Well TOR has his rights and he hasn't played nearly enough college to become a UFA, so I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into that family member's word. It sounds like they aren't very familiar with the rules around NCAA players and UFA/ELCs.

I'm not saying you're full of crap, I just don't think that's credible enough for me to buy it. Like I believe you that you go to school with one of his family members, but I just don't think that family member understands what Matthew's options are.