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Created by: Booyaa
Team: 2022-23 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 8, 2022
Published: Aug. 8, 2022
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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1$1,200,000
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1$1,500,000
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EDM
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (WSH)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
ARI
  1. Barrie, Tyson
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
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pure salary dump
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22$82,500,000$81,289,333$896,000$2,200,000$1,210,667
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Aug. 8, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.
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No Subban. He's done.
Aug. 8, 2022 at 6:35 p.m.
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Quoting: CD282
No Subban. He's done.


Subban is better and a more reliable at 5 on 5 than barrie, Barrie is just an overrated PP specialist that needs kulak or nurse to babysit him to put up somewhat "ok" numbers, Paying him 4.5M just to get out produced 5 on 5 by bouchard and Nurse has a better goals per/60 on PP1 + he is a defensive liability when he's not paired with kulak so literally anyone below 1.7M would be an upgrade because of how valuable cap space is
Aug. 8, 2022 at 6:36 p.m.
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remove our 3RD and go for a lower pick and maybe Arizona would consider?
Aug. 8, 2022 at 11:23 p.m.
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NoMoreJustin
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Quoting: BouchBomb
Subban is better and a more reliable at 5 on 5 than barrie, Barrie is just an overrated PP specialist that needs kulak or nurse to babysit him to put up somewhat "ok" numbers, Paying him 4.5M just to get out produced 5 on 5 by bouchard and Nurse has a better goals per/60 on PP1 + he is a defensive liability when he's not paired with kulak so literally anyone below 1.7M would be an upgrade because of how valuable cap space is


Now I know you don’t watch the Oilers play enough games and have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Aug. 9, 2022 at 1:35 a.m.
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Quoting: LloydminsterLarry
Now I know you don’t watch the Oilers play enough games and have no idea what you’re talking about.


everything i said is backed up by numbers and analytics, And analytics say Subban is more reliable defensively at 30% EV defense, 86% EV offense and 40% WAR while barrie has 6% EV defense, 18% EV offense and 21% WAR. All the numbers say subban > Barrie at 5x5 (all stats from Jfresh player cards) barrie is 100% the better PP QB but other than that subban's numbers are slightly better all around and at a fractions of the cost subban would be a better options than barrie on the 3rd pair with broberg. I'm not saying subban is the clear cut better player but at 1.5M-ish for 1 year he would be a great addition and help the cap situation next year when we have to sign JP, Bouchard, Skinner and potentially Mcleod is he signs a 1 year deal and we could fill that 3 RD with kemp or kesselring on ELC's instead of Barrie's $4.5M for the next 2 years. Ya get where i'm coming from??
Aug. 9, 2022 at 7:48 a.m.
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Quoting: BouchBomb
everything i said is backed up by numbers and analytics, And analytics say Subban is more reliable defensively at 30% EV defense, 86% EV offense and 40% WAR while barrie has 6% EV defense, 18% EV offense and 21% WAR. All the numbers say subban > Barrie at 5x5 (all stats from Jfresh player cards) barrie is 100% the better PP QB but other than that subban's numbers are slightly better all around and at a fractions of the cost subban would be a better options than barrie on the 3rd pair with broberg. I'm not saying subban is the clear cut better player but at 1.5M-ish for 1 year he would be a great addition and help the cap situation next year when we have to sign JP, Bouchard, Skinner and potentially Mcleod is he signs a 1 year deal and we could fill that 3 RD with kemp or kesselring on ELC's instead of Barrie's $4.5M for the next 2 years. Ya get where i'm coming from??


Do you fancy numbers tell you that Subban for his career has scored 40% of his points on the PP? Guess how many Barrie has scored for his career on the PP? 40%. That’s basically the average for most defenceman who plays big PP minutes. Calling him a PP specialist is wrong when 60% of his points are coming 5 on 5. I guess the fancy numbers skipped that part?
Aug. 9, 2022 at 8:06 a.m.
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Quoting: LloydminsterLarry
Do you fancy numbers tell you that Subban for his career has scored 40% of his points on the PP? Guess how many Barrie has scored for his career on the PP? 40%. That’s basically the average for most defenceman who plays big PP minutes. Calling him a PP specialist is wrong when 60% of his points are coming 5 on 5. I guess the fancy numbers skipped that part?


The thing is we don't need more offense with guys like McD, Drai, Kane, Yams and nuge or we don't need another PP QB bouch, nurse and broberg are all qualified to QB, we need D-men who will break even on goals for and goals against 5 on 5 which is something barrie couldn't do unless kulak baby sat him, I know subban isn't a defensive wizard but he is certainly better than barrie in his own end which is one of the areas we need to improve most, Tyson Barrie is a Defensive liability 5 on 5 which was another area of weakness last year our special teams were good enough for us to start the year last year HOT
Aug. 9, 2022 at 8:16 a.m.
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also Barrie got 21 of 41 points on the power play last year for 50% of his points last year and All of subban's 21 points came at 5 on 5 while 1 came short handed so the PP point % argument doesn't work.
Subban is just as productive 5 on 5 as barrie and has a slightly better defense + subban didn't have McDavid and Draisaitl to throw the puck to for free points (he had hughes but his isn't on the same level lol)
 
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