Canes said F the Russian factor

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Created by: Cardiac

Team: 2022-23 Carolina Hurricanes

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 11, 2022

Published: Aug. 11, 2022

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The first 20 years after the franchises relocation to Carolina, the canes drafted ONE Russian player. ONE! Obviously something would have had to go wrong with that one player for the canes to not draft a single Russian till 2018. In 2001, the canes drafted 15th overall, Russian defenseman Igor Knyazev. I don’t blame you if you have never heard of Knyazev because he never played an NHL game. In fact he never even signed in the NHL. It’s clear this incident rubbed the canes management the wrong way because they didn’t draft a single Russian again till 2018 and with that pick they took svechnikov. Svech was the obvious pick but it was a barrier that was broken by the canes by drafting a Russian. Since 2019, the canes have drafted at least 2 Russians a draft every draft. Partly due to the large draft capital but by also having Russian games either more scouted or just scouted to begin with. Obviously the canes haven’t been against bringing in Russians as they have signed players like Alex semin and traded for others like valentin zykov (yea the canes haven’t been the best with Russians).

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Slepets, Kirill	1	$950,000
Nikishin, Alexander	3	$950,000
Naumov, Yegor	3	$950,000
Guslistov, Nikita	3	$950,000
Grudinin, Vladimir	3	$950,000
Pelevin, Alexander	3	$950,000
Perevalov, Alexander	3	$950,000
Trikozov, Gleb	3	$950,000

Buried

Jaccob Slavin: $4,175,000 ($5,300,000)
Jesperi Kotkaniemi: $3,695,000 ($4,820,000)
Frederik Andersen: $3,375,000 ($4,500,000)
Ondrej Kase: $375,000 ($1,500,000)
Brady Skjei: $4,125,000 ($5,250,000)
Martin Necas: $1,875,000 ($3,000,000)
Jordan Martinook: $675,000 ($1,800,000)
Teuvo Teräväinen: $4,275,000 ($5,400,000)
Antti Raanta: $875,000 ($2,000,000)
Jake Gardiner: $2,925,000 ($4,050,000)
Jesper Fast: $875,000 ($2,000,000)
Jordan Staal: $4,875,000 ($6,000,000)
Sebastian Aho: $7,335,250 ($8,460,250)
Brent Burns: $4,155,000 ($5,280,000)
Brett Pesce: $2,900,000 ($4,025,000)
Ethan Bear: $675,000 ($1,800,000)
Max Pacioretty: $5,875,000 ($7,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
12	$82,500,000	$70,986,917	$112,500	$147,500	$11,513,083

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
	Svechnikov, Andrei $7,750,000$7,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 7
	Trikozov, Gleb $950,000$950,000 LW, RW, C RFA
	Nikishin, Alexander $950,000$950,000 LD RFA
	Grudinin, Vladimir $950,000$950,000 LD RFA
	Pashin, Alexander $826,667$826,667 C, LW, RW RFA - 3
	Perevalov, Alexander $950,000$950,000 LW RFA
	Ponomarev, Vasili $795,000$795,000 ($65,000$65K) C RFA - 3
	Pelevin, Alexander $950,000$950,000 LD RFA
	Guslistov, Nikita $950,000$950,000 C RFA
	Slepets, Kirill $950,000$950,000 RW RFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
		Kochetkov, Pyotr $842,500$842,500 ($82,500$82K) G UFA - 1

		Naumov, Yegor $950,000$950,000 G RFA

Aug. 11, 2022 at 9:26 p.m.

Juiceman

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Good prospect is good prospect
-Canes scouts probably

Aug. 11, 2022 at 9:36 p.m.

Cardiac

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Quoting: Juiceman

Good prospect is good prospect
-Canes scouts probably

True but if you draft a Russian once in the first 20 years, something is obviously up. That’s like 200 plus prospects drafted and one Russian. Something is up for sure.

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Aug. 11, 2022 at 9:54 p.m.

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we didnt have a Russian scout until Dundon came on board and ponied up the money for one (or how ever many we have now). We didnt draft Russians because we didnt know anything about them.

Aug. 11, 2022 at 10:07 p.m.

Cardiac

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Quoting: ecupirate07

we didnt have a Russian scout until Dundon came on board and ponied up the money for one (or how ever many we have now). We didnt draft Russians because we didnt know anything about them.

Kinda dumb to just completely ignore 3 major leagues for prospects in the MHL VHL and KHL. The canes automatically rules themselves out of so many great mid round picks. Imagine if the canes picked just one of sheshterkin, kaprizov, sorokin, kucherov, buchnevich, orlov, or any of the other great kid round Russians. Those are the types of picks the current regime would make. So glad we’re going in a better direction.

Aug. 11, 2022 at 10:10 p.m.

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Quoting: Cardiac

I think our European guy covered some of Russia but we didn’t have a dedicated guy

Aug. 11, 2022 at 10:16 p.m.

ItWasIn

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Calgary hasn't drafted many Russians historically either. That has changed recently though.

I also think there was a time where ANA rarely did as well.

Aug. 11, 2022 at 10:26 p.m.

Cardiac

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Quoting: ItWasIn

Calgary hasn't drafted many Russians historically either. That has changed recently though.

I also think there was a time where ANA rarely did as well.

The flames first Russian was in 1983. They drafted Russians relatively normally from 1983-2002 and then had an 16 year gap from 2002 to 2018 where they drafted only one Russian and since have been drafting them pretty normally since.

Anaheim on the other hand is interesting because in their first 8 years as a team, they drafted 14 Russians. Then from 2002-2019 they drafted one Russian and in the past 3 years they have taken three.

This is an interesting rabbit hole tbh, I’m going to look down it some more.

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Aug. 11, 2022 at 10:52 p.m.

ItWasIn

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Quoting: Cardiac

It's interesting because every situation is different with the players. Looking at your Canes. When the player is already in NA like Svechnkikov, it's a non-factor because you can immediately get the player under contract. Then you look at Trikozov, you may have to wait a bit to get that player under contract and I think teams shy away from that.

The 2023 draft will be a prime example. Michkov should absolutely go second overall, but that team will have to wait a while to get him to NA. Can a team stomach that? In a vacuum, they should but a GM picking 2nd overall may not have the leash to wait until 2026 for Michkov.

Aug. 11, 2022 at 11:11 p.m.

Cardiac

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Quoting: ItWasIn

That’s like waiting for malkin though. Sure barker and Ladd were there for the taking and would have been more of an instant impact but malkin was the clear #2.

Aug. 12, 2022 at 9:32 a.m.

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Edited Aug. 12, 2022 at 12:38 p.m.

They were bad, cheap, old school and probably avoided the trouble of getting comrades over here. Smartened up at some point. If I recall correctly, the last few drafts CAR kept trading down, doubling their picks, very nice! I just remade every team til 25, crazy how some teams have tons of prospects, some very few. Some teams tons/few Russians, Ds, Fs,...

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