Lol vegas isn’t doing that. Whitecloud definitely holds the most value in this as he instantly becomes your 1RD and he’s locked up for 5 years under 3 million.

Only because he'd be playing with Chabot... But he'd actually be the 2nd RD because Zub has more value than Whitecloud does. But Vegas will need the cap space, they have very little in the pipeline, Stone seems like his career is close to done with a wonky back, Eichel not playing badly but not even a point per game you'll never move him with that contract... Plus the only other players you're likely to move Stephenson maybe? You need him more than you need Whitecloud. Whitecloud like I said plays bottom pairing minutes and Korczak can likely replace him as he has played fairly well in his 10 games or so. I watch a lot of Vegas games because I work nights. Plus the Knights just added Dysin Mayo who is also a RD. So maybe it doesn't happen but not as far fetched as you're making it seem

Canucks pass.Demko is not going anywhere.IMHO

That was the deal I have the most hesitation with honestly. I agree finding elite goaltending is hard and even if the Canucks go into rebuild, they should hold onto him. But if he is available? I would hope Ottawa would really push hard for him. I know he has struggled this season, but it happens, they'd be stupid to move him. So as a Sens fan? I hope Alvin isn't that bright lol =)

Lol.He would be great with the Sens could make them contenders,but he loves it here.Im not sure these days what Alvin will do so......

Your premise for the Vegas trade is that they need to move cap space in order to solve their team needs. So the solution is to trade a cost controlled player signed for another 5 years or their other cost controlled player in Stephenson.

1. If Stone and Lehner are back next year they have 2.5M in cap space with a 22 man roster, without making a move so not in desperate need of cap space.
2. Talbot isn't worth that cost when Hill is only day to day (currently skating) and Brossoit is a more than capable backup
3. Martinez's contract is up in 1 more year so the more likely target to move
4. They can get a better return for Whitecloud if their intention was to free up space for Korczak or Miromanov

But it is as farfetched. Whitecloud is on a very team friendly deal. If they want to move cap it’s not he or Stephenson like you are saying, it’s Martinez or Karlsson. Not the dude they just locked up for 6 years under 3 million lol

How are you getting rid of those guys? No one would want them... You don't have much in the way of Prospects so that eliminates trading your 1st rounders as those are your future cheap talent to replace these guys with. Karlsson has 5 years left!!! At what $6M a season? If you haven't noticed teams are putting some actual talent on waivers simply to get rid of cap... So if you're going to clear cap space you sure as hell aren't going to get rid of Karlsson unless you're eating about 50% of his cap hit for 5 years... and Martinez is the best defensive d-man you have. Point of trading Whitecloud is because you already have a cheap replacement for him. You're going to need to spend at least what you're paying Martinec to replace him if not more at the rate defenseman are being paid.

They have $2.5M with 18 skaters still need another 4. Martinez is a top defenseman making under $6M and is the best defensive d-man you have. When you're trying to win and shed cap space you're not selling off your top pairing RD, especially when he is a great cap hit. I do agree Whitecloud is on a good cap hit but he's a bottom pairing guy on Vegas and $2.75M is great if he is playing in your top 4 but he isn't. Tip my hat to the Knights they built a helluva defense I'd say the best in the league in my opinion.

Ottawa shed salary because they need to re-sign DeBrincat.... They're not going to sell off Chabot or Zub to get it done. They sold off Zaitsev. Ottawa has had a ton of draft picks pan out so they have a base of prospects to replace guys like Watson (4th line), Brasard (3rd-4th Line), Holden (3rd pairing)... Hard to win making guys like Martinez the casualties. You're not going to move Karlsson, not unless you're throwing multiple 1st rounders and still likely taking on salary to retain.

I mentioned Talbot because apparently Vegas has been kicking tires on him and they did kick tires on him before the season started. You sold of Patches to start the year for nothing and the offense is struggling for it. You trade off Martinez and you're not getting better. Vegas is in win-now. If you can move out a bottom pairing guy, replace with a cheaper just as talented guy in Korczak? It makes sense. Bottom pairing guys generally are making in the $900K - $1.4M. Whitecloud although talented, is an overpayment for the position. He's not that on most teams, but Vegas needs that cap hit to apply up front.