Holl is the Leafs 2nd most used defenseman this season. His pairing defaults to facing other teams top lines, regardless of who he is playing with. His results have Toronto as a top 5 defensive team in the league by results, both normal and fancy. Trading Holl is just some dumb fantasy Leafs fans have, he's not going anywhere.

It's the best way I could make the deal for Dumba in Toronto to work would you say it's a Dumba fantasy trading Holl, either way for the sake of bringing an elite NHL all star it might be worth it.

What an idiotic trade for the leafs.

Since when is Brock Boeser at full value? Worth kerfoot+Robertson and a 1st and 2nd round pick. At the very least he's $2,000,000 overpaid.

And then Dumba for Boeser. So you're basically giving all that up for Matt Dumba.

Dumba hasnt been worth that in like 6 years

NHL GM's are told their trades are idiotic by fans it doesn't really mean anything unless you can prove why it's idiotic and only a handful of trades have ever been really terrible most of them workout over time and that's why GM's hold the jobs that they do as for being an acgm definitely going to make ridiculous trades but I see pretty bad transactions from seasoned users on the site...I would avoid calling a fan idiotic we're not pros just having fun so to avoid looking like a huge dbag id just take it easy on the massive insults, just my opinion you had to be the example but many out there and most people see them as the idiots.

Dumba isnt worth kerfoot, Holl, Robertson and a first?

Minnesota is also giving up a second and third pick and they're receiving boeser and Holl for Dumba and 2 picks so for the user saying boeser isn't worth that much then if you're only giving up Dumba and getting boeser what's the big deal?

Leafs losing one draft pick and a good young player they haven't been able to use properly, Holl and kerfoot are role players.

Well I like the trade anyways.

No, he really isn't. Hes worse defensively than holl, has been for a while and he doesn't score or do anything else near enough for extras.
He just isnt very good