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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 13 at 1:24 a.m.
Thread: Zadorov was traded for a 3RD IN 2021
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ReggieTheGoat</b></div><div>My reasoning is we only have 3 retention spots and there's no way we are taking Klingberg full value as we will use those spots on more valuable UFA's to increase return.</div></div>

That seems like the reason you would take Klingberg full value. Zadorov is a 3rd pairing defenseman making just short of 4 mil aav. The Flames will have to take bad cap back or retain to move him regardless of where he's going. They also probably want to save retention slots for Tanev, Lindholm and Hanifin. Being able to move Zadorov without retention would be the bonus for them and the reason they take bad cap like Kilingberg in return. The OP ****ed it up by doing both, sure, but taking bad cap back isn't going to be the breaking point of a Zadorov trade so the Flames can keep their 3 retentions for the bigger assets.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 13 at 1:22 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 11 at 8:19 a.m.
Thread: Good comparables for Zadorov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>I don't know for the others, people often overestimate their players but I think Chiarot is the exact comparable. The type of players GMs love to overrate, both big players, both really physical and lots of teams will be interested. Zadorov is younger and doesn't have a M-NTC like Chiarot. Playoffs' experience and time on ice are different but I'm confident the asking price will be a 1st and they will get it (unless Conroy is really dumb).</div></div>

Well again, half a dozen teams have said that same thing. Habs fans said it for Edmundson, Vancouver fans for Schenn, etc. People seem to miss that Chiarot was considered by GMs as a minute eating guy. He was playing 24 minutes a night in Montreal, their top penalty killer, facing the tough competition, etc, and had gone to the cup final doing so. Guys like Edmundson, Schenn and Zadorov aren't that. These 3rd pairing 'big, physical' guys haven't been getting that kind of return, they haven't been worth more just because Chiarot was.
Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 11 at 8:19 a.m.
Thread: Good comparables for Zadorov
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bhavikp27</b></div><div>I don't know for the others, people often overestimate their players but I think Chiarot is the exact comparable. The type of players GMs love to overrate, both big players, both really physical and lots of teams will be interested. Zadorov is younger and doesn't have a M-NTC like Chiarot. Playoffs' experience and time on ice are different but I'm confident the asking price will be a 1st and they will get it (unless Conroy is really dumb).</div></div>

Well again, half a dozen teams have said that same thing. Habs fans said it for Edmundson, Vancouver fans for Schenn, etc. People seem to miss that Chiarot was considered by GMs as a minute eating guy. He was playing 24 minutes a night in Montreal, their top penalty killer, facing the tough competition, etc, and had gone to the cup final doing so. Guys like Edmundson, Schenn and Zadorov aren't that. These 3rd pairing 'big, physical' guys haven't been getting that kind of return.