Rebuild offseason part 1

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Created by: Rob32sjsharks

Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 3, 2023

Published: Mar. 9, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

23 NHL draft. Tankathon simulator has sharks 1st OA
1st OA Connor Bedard RHC
26th OA Kohen Zeimmer RW
34th OA Michael Hrabal G

Karlsson gets a few interested clubs, but the offers wind up underwhelming and he stays and sharks begin to build a team that gets us out of the basement.

Simek will be moved or buried next year.

Labanc is in the doghouse and needs a fresh start, and so does Fabbro. both teams fill needs and remove an issue. willing to add a mid round pick going either way to even out the load.

Max Pacioretty is coming off 2 bad injuries so we might get him on a team friendly deal, If healthy he is still a very gifted and skilled player.

I would also take a flyer on Goalie Anderson as well if he would do a 2 year 4.5 m deal.

this would be a much better team than last years but not sure if it’s a playoff team yet. but the prospect pool and young player pool is growing and starting to oprovide

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bystedt, Filip	3	$887,000
Hävelid, Mattias	3	$863,000
Cardwell, Ethan	2	$797,000
Gaudreau, Benjamin	3	$797,000
Chrona, Magnus	1	$797,000
Thrun, Henry	2	$875,000
Young, Alex	2	$813,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Knyzhov, Nikolai	1	$950,000
Mäkiniemi, Eetu	1	$850,000
Mann, Strauss	1	$775,000
Peterson, Jacob	1	$775,000
Kaut, Martin	1	$775,000
Zetterlund, Fabian	2	$1,050,000
Gadjovich, Jonah	1	$850,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pacioretty, Max		3	$6,500,000
Andersen, Frederik		2	$4,500,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Zeimmer, Kohen		3	$905,000
Bedard, Connor		3	$950,000

Trades

SJS

Fabbro, Dante

NSH

Labanc, Kevin ($1,225,000 retained)

SJS

Arizona gets a decent depth D, a pick, and a little closer to the cap floor.

NSH

Simek, Radim
2023 5th round pick (SJS)

Buyouts

Martin Jones: $2,916,667
Rūdolfs Balcers: $308,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)
Kevin Labanc: $1,225,000 (25.93%)

DRAFT YEAR	ROUND 1	ROUND 2	ROUND 3	ROUND 4	ROUND 5	ROUND 6	ROUND 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$80,612,501	$25,000	$850,000	$2,887,499

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Eklund, William $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) C, LW RFA - 3	Hertl, Tomas $8,137,500$8,137,500 C NMC UFA - 7	Bedard, Connor $950,000$950,000
Pacioretty, Max $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW UFA	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
	Bordeleau, Thomas $916,667$916,667 C RFA - 1	Barabanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Lindblom, Oskar $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 2	Kunin, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C RFA - 1
Lorentz, Steven $1,050,000$1,050,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1		Zetterlund, Fabian $1,050,000$1,050,000 RW RFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Knyzhov, Nikolai $950,000$950,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Karlsson, Erik $11,500,000$11,500,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Andersen, Frederik $4,500,000$4,500,000 G UFA
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Fabbro, Dante $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD RFA - 1	Kähkönen, Kaapo $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Thrun, Henry $875,000$875,000 LD RFA - 1	Benning, Matthew $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3
Gadjovich, Jonah $850,000$850,000 LW, RW RFA
Kaut, Martin $775,000$775,000 RW RFA

Mar. 9 at 4:40 p.m.

AStovetop

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That's a big price for for a 35 year old Patches even if he didn't just tear his achilles twice this season.
Also, pretty sure him and Cooch despise each other.

Mar. 9 at 5:41 p.m.

JoeThorntonsBeard

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Don't think 35 year old pach would have any interest in joining the worst team in the league. Why would the sharks want him either? Injury prone vet, if we need a vet, think 4th liners and backup goalies... (ex, Lucic, Griess) not pacioretty and andersson

Mar. 9 at 6:01 p.m.

Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: AStovetop

That's a big price for for a 35 year old Patches even if he didn't just tear his achilles twice this season.
Also, pretty sure him and Cooch despise each other.

maybe they do, but its funny how guys come together when they are teammates.
cost wise hes been a ppg guy the last few years and its a shorter contract so i figured that about what it would take to get him, though I would be thrilled to grab him for less.
the FA market for top 6 guys is thin this year so it's him or Max Domi and I don't trust his production this year tbh.

Mar. 9 at 6:05 p.m.

Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: JoeThorntonsBeard

except we have 4th liners and backup goalies we need a starter and a top 6 guy and Bedard + Karlsson could tempt him maybe.
and I went older as more of a stop gap kind of deal till prospects can take over. rather than like a Domi for 5+ years.
It doesn't have to be Pacioretty or Anderen but a starter and a top 6 is the need to at least make this team decent, otherwise its another lottery in 24.
and while I like the long play I also can recognize that building a tough club that wants to win is better than sucking for picks.

Mar. 9 at 6:50 p.m.

AStovetop

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I don't think the Sharks should be shopping for a top 6 forward at all this season at all, espeically for an injured 35 y/o. Maybe on a one year deal, that we can flip at the deadline, but Patches won't want to come to a bottom feeder and he's certainly not going to take less to do so. It's time or them to had off bigger roles to the young guys

Mar. 9 at 7:33 p.m.

Just_A_Guess

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NSH declines. Wtf is that.

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Mar. 9 at 7:34 p.m.

Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: Just_A_Guess

NSH declines. Wtf is that.

Heard the sharks are interested and Fabbro was in your coaches dog house. figured both players could use a change, i also commented we could add a pick.

Mar. 9 at 7:39 p.m.

Just_A_Guess

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Heard the sharks are interested and Fabbro was in your coaches dog house. figured both players could use a change, i also commented we could add a pick.

You can drop Labanc entirely. Misused or not we're not looking to add to 2 problems with a single trade.

We have a logjam on the wing, we need the RD we have or a pick to get a new one. Losing a RD and adding a W is the opposite of what NSH needs.

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Mar. 9 at 8:08 p.m.

Rob32sjsharks

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Quoting: AStovetop

but we don't have enough young guys ready yet and you cant man a whole 23 man roster with 18-23 years olds and not expect to get destroyed.

Mar. 9 at 8:08 p.m.

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Quoting: Just_A_Guess

Fabbro for Benning? save money that way

Mar. 9 at 8:20 p.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Fabbro for Benning? save money that way

God no

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Mar. 9 at 8:47 p.m.

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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer

God no

whatever he’s not a make or break guy. I could care less except it was rumored sharks were interested.

Mar. 9 at 9:52 p.m.

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Simek may be a chronic concussion guy now 900k for 2 yrs
Lebanc is a 1/3 buy out for his age. Buy out 800k for 2 yrs

Clears almost 5m in cap space and cost us no retention or assets

Mar. 10 at 12:36 a.m.

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Quoting: vols94

Simek may be a chronic concussion guy now 900k for 2 yrs
Lebanc is a 1/3 buy out for his age. Buy out 800k for 2 yrs

Clears almost 5m in cap space and cost us no retention or assets

don’t want the long term even if it’s just 2 years, we have cap if we can move them even retained i would.

Mar. 10 at 11:30 a.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

but we don't have enough young guys ready yet and you cant man a whole 23 man roster with 18-23 years olds and not expect to get destroyed.

With or without Patches, they're not in a position to compete. Ease the young guys in, I think Gushchin could be ready to make the jump next year. Also wtf is Zetterlund doing on the 4th line?

To be clear I'm not against signing a short term top 6 winger. The issues with Patches are:
1. 35 next year
2. That Cap hit and term is way too high/long
3. Patches want's to win a cup and this guarantees he won't
4. Dealing with a potentially career ending injury
5. The obvious cooch/Patches hate (least concerning thing though)

If Tarasenko ends up in a Klingberg situation, I think he'd be a great fit with Hertl and Barabanov on a one year deal.

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Mar. 10 at 1:24 p.m.

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If we don’t win Bedard or Fantilli, who are the next 2 prospects, names and position?

Mar. 10 at 1:28 p.m.

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Quoting: AStovetop

Zetterlund and Kunin would battle for 3rd line, Maybe Zetterlund plays his way up but for now I see him as a bottom 6 guy.
Pacioretty was my short term fix at wing but apparently i’m off on that, so maybe Domi or Tarasenko wind up doing 1-2 years deals and we can flip them at the TDL.

My hope was not to fight for the playoffs but more just show some realistic improvement and wind up drafting 7-12 not 1-5 and build on that each year.

Mar. 10 at 1:30 p.m.

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Quoting: CB37

If we don’t win Bedard or Fantilli, who are the next 2 prospects, names and position?

Carlsson LHRW/C and Michkov RW are the next 2 and the jury is split on who goes 3 and 4 but the consensus is Carlsson 3 Michkov 4.

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Mar. 10 at 1:37 p.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Carlsson LHRW/C and Michkov RW are the next 2 and the jury is split on who goes 3 and 4 but the consensus is Carlsson 3 Michkov 4.

Is Michkov a RH shot?

Mar. 10 at 1:49 p.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

Carlsson LHRW/C and Michkov RW are the next 2 and the jury is split on who goes 3 and 4 but the consensus is Carlsson 3 Michkov 4.

Michkov is having a very good second half of the season and is absolutely in the talks for 2nd overall. I think Calrsson is definitely behind Fantilli, but Michkov could go 2-4. It could come down to each team's needs. I think the Sharks would go for a Center though

Mar. 10 at 3:42 p.m.

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Quoting: AStovetop

Fantilli is a better/ faster skater, despite being 6" 35 pounds bigger Michkov and could play as early as next year.
to me Fantilli looks like he could be the sharks next Patrick Marleau, I dont see a senario where he isnt 2nd OA.

Mar. 10 at 4:04 p.m.

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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks

I've seen very little of either, I'm just going off of what those who DO watch/track these guys religiously are saying. For the Sharks, it should absolutely be Fantilli given the fact they need future centers and have an abundance of smaller skilled wingers already.

But say Buffalo went on a slide and won the lottery to get the 2nd overall. They have Thompson and Cozens long term as 1C and 2C and may want a high skill winger instead of a large center. Michkov would absolutely be in the conversation for 2nd OVR

Mar. 10 at 4:11 p.m.

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Quoting: AStovetop

in that case yea Michkov might be an option. beut even then Carlsson can play either wing and would be NHL ready sooner since you lose 3 years of Michkov to the KHL

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