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Created by: AJax_
Published: May 20, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 42/185 (23%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because the upper limit has been exceeded by one of the trade parties

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,123,784011---8173138--
Dubé, DillonCalgary FlamesNHL-$522,162011---82182745--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,580,645011---82404787--
Liljegren, TimothyToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$317,838011---6761218--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$229,523234769358
Change-$252,537000000
Final-$23,014 (↓)23476935821122

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Nylander, WilliamToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$6,962,366011---82404787--
Liljegren, TimothyToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,400,000011---6761218--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,950,000011---8173138--
Dubé, DillonCalgary FlamesNHL-$2,300,000011---82182745--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,7502550672212
Change$1,112,366000000
Final$1,116,116 (↑)2550672212-21-1-22
May 20, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.
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I think the Leafs decline this. Nylander's point totals alone and his still-possibly-untapped potential will make the ask heftier in my opinion.

On the surface, it is a better forward, worse defenceman for better defenceman, worse forward. But is Hanifin enough of a game changer to make this one worthwhile for Toronto? Hanifin is also a leftie, forcing McCabe to the right side, not sure that works?

End of the day, not sure on the value here to be honest, eye of the beholder I suppose.
May 20, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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Quoting: Augustus
I think the Leafs decline this. Nylander's point totals alone and his still-possibly-untapped potential will make the ask heftier in my opinion.

On the surface, it is a better forward, worse defenceman for better defenceman, worse forward. But is Hanifin enough of a game changer to make this one worthwhile for Toronto? Hanifin is also a leftie, forcing McCabe to the right side, not sure that works?

End of the day, not sure on the value here to be honest, eye of the beholder I suppose.


Having said all this, would I be correct in saying that beyond Rielly, the Leafs don't have much in the way of good puck movers on the back end? Giordano is retirement age, Liljegren is yet to burst out really.. maybe Hanifin does provide something they really need? Is Brodie still any good at it?
May 20, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Augustus
Having said all this, would I be correct in saying that beyond Rielly, the Leafs don't have much in the way of good puck movers on the back end? Giordano is retirement age, Liljegren is yet to burst out really.. maybe Hanifin does provide something they really need? Is Brodie still any good at it?


Brodie slowed down in the playoffs. The speed and playing every other night got to him. I would ask for Andersen (instead oh Hanifan) and it may be closer value but i know how Flame's fans put Andersen high on Norris type pedastal.
May 20, 2023 at 9:31 p.m.
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Brodie slowed down in the playoffs. The speed and playing every other night got to him. I would ask for Andersen (instead oh Hanifan) and it may be closer value but i know how Flame's fans put Andersen high on Norris type pedastal.


Lol, I do value Andersson very highly myself, if you've seen some of my responses in other threads, but I don't consider him Norris trophy winner. Makar, Heiskanen, even still E. Karlsson, will always get the votes. But because I pay a lot more attention to the Flames, and watch a lot more of them, than the other teams, I do feel like Andersson has so much to offer that doesn't get noticed as much as other guys, and is becoming quite a complete defenceman. It is a much harder to pill to swallow than losing Hanifin, which is exactly why you said you'd rather have Andersson wink
May 21, 2023 at 12:13 a.m.
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Edited May 21, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
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Brodie slowed down in the playoffs. The speed and playing every other night got to him. I would ask for Andersen (instead oh Hanifan) and it may be closer value but i know how Flame's fans put Andersen high on Norris type pedastal.


Brodie has always been bad in the playoffs and anytime the games get tough. That's why the Flames let him go.

Andersson is not available. Neither is Weegar but if you want a RD Tanev could be traded. Neither one is likely to win a Norris they're two way defensemen and the Norris usually goes to the defenseman who scores the most points rather than the best defenseman. Even when it does go to the best defenseman he gets it when he has a really good year offensively.
 
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