Vladar will almost certainly be dealt this current offseason.

Even if a Hanifin for Nylander trade is made more cap would have to be going in Toronto's direction for the Flames to be cap compliant (and that's already assuming Vladar is moved to make the current roster compliant).

I just wanted to see if they could even keep the group moving forward, and they probably could even though it would be tight for a year or so.

As for the current roster, I'm assuming both Hanifin and Mangiapane are dealt for Nylander in terms of roster players, which would give them 5m to fill 5 spots which would be incredibly tight still but it's still possible, especially if they can replace Vladar at half the cost.

I doubt Mangiapane is dealt at all. He had a very down year in comparison to the previous few years. He should absolutely bounce back and even potentially be considered underpaid next year

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Mangiapane does bounce back but if he does, then I doubt they would be able to keep him around if they do indeed make a big addition which is why I included. I was also think of this in the context of keeping Lindholm as well. Dealing him would be problematic, but it could open up options.

Something that I noticed is that if the Flames do go after a top 6 forward, it's probably going to have to be someone in the 7M range or lower, so for trades that probably limits them to Nylander, Keller, the WPG guys if they are made available. Maybe they go for Brock Boeser as a bounce-back candidate. I wonder if that means they are going to sign a ufa like Tarasenko or a guy like Bunting who is really just a top 9 F.

Well i think you are viewing it differently from me. I think Dube would be the player involved in a trade before Mangiapane. In this scenario you have Dube essentially getting the Mangiapane contract so that's a net zero change

It depends on who's moved in the trade. For example if Calgary decides to trade Toffoli + Tanev or something like that then that opens up a lot more cap to work with and an 8-9M player is plausible. As for some other players Konecny, Guentzel, Wilson, Mantha, Reinhart (if available), Olofsson, and DeBrusk all come to mind too

Honestly, that would probably be more likely since the other team would prefer a net 0 change. I just thought that CGY would benefit from the lower cap hit that year, but also the Leafs would probably want Mangiapane's bounce back potential. That being said taking Dube who has 2 more years of team control I think+an unsigned Hanifin would be less risky for the Leafs GM. Should be interesting if Treliving does end up getting the Leafs' GM job.

I don't see it happening tbh but I could see the Flames having interest in Nylander now that Sutter is gone. He never would have fit if Sutter was still coaching

Konecny, DeBrusk, and Olofsson could be interesting; although, I feel like Konecny would cost an arm and a leg and unlike the rest, he isn't eligible for an extension. As for Guentzel and Wilson, I wonder if either would be made available and if they were would it be in a hockey trade that makes sense for the Flames. I imagine both those teams would be looking for young players as part of the return. Mantha seems like a reclamation project, and I guess that wouldn't be a bad thing depending on acquisition cost. Reinhart or Duclair could be good adds.

Personally Reinhart is the guy I want most. Proven 80 point player who has excellent chemistry with Huberdeau and is defensively very strong

Yeah, I wonder if acquiring Nylander would help with retaining Lindholm. Will be interesting to see what Conroy does this off-season.

Oh, that's right, yeah would make a ton of sense, and he could probably be had for cheaper than some of those other guys.

Depends on what Florida wants to do. Right now I'm not sure if they want to make any changes

Too many big contracts. Gotta make decisions.

I definitely wouldn't give kylington money after this year

Yeah, was just using him as and Dube as place holders for top 4 and top 6 players, this is for the 2024-25 season though, so who knows what either guy will do the coming season. I know that Kylington might not even return though.

As for the big contracts, CGY is probably on the course to have their own core 4 of forwards.

Well they will have to make tough decisions based on the cap alone, especially if they win the Cup. I would imagine Gudas is gone either way after this season, so they might want to add a guy like Hanifin if they can get him under contract for something reasonable after this season. Also, worth noting that in the following season Montour and Forsling need contracts, and in the one after that Ekblad needs one. So, they don't got anyone locked on the back-end as opposed to the forwards. I also, think they will want to keep Bennett and Verhaeghe around when they need contracts in 2-years.

If they don't win, then I could see them just essentially running it back.

I don't think so. They have a lot of cap coming off the books this summer between Yandle and Hornqvist.