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WHAT IF NYR never made trades with Winnipeg

Created by: jpigeon2000
Team: 2023-24 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 16, 2023
Published: Jun. 17, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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OVERVIEW: reverted the 3 trades b/t NYR and WPG

NOTES
Rangers never sign Trocheck or Goodrow (NOTES: just traded them to AZ just to get them off the roster)
re-signed Vatrano
Rangers fail to find a trade partner for Hayes - buyout in 23-24
During the year paper transaction Cuylie and Schneider to bank cap space. Also fine with dropping one of khaira or aston-reese and go with 22 and call-up a FW when needed
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
4$4,250,000
2$2,100,000
2$900,000
2$975,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,500,000
2$1,250,000
1$1,000,000
1$775,000
1$2,000,000
1$875,000
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
WPG
  1. 2023 6th round pick (WPG)
2.
3.
NYR
WPG
  1. Laba, Noah [Reserve List]
Additional Details:
pick was part of the kevin hayes deal
4.
NYR
  1. Hayes, Kevin
Additional Details:
revert the 1st NYR & WPG trade
PHI
5.
6.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$82,175,733$610,892$482,500$1,324,267
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$11,642,857$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,650,000$3,650,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$4,437,500$4,437,500
C, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 4
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LW
RFA - 2
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$875,000$875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$5,666,667$5,666,667
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Rangers
$4,250,000$4,250,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
LD
UFA - 2

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Jun. 17, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
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The Rangers really overpaid for Copp.
Jun. 17, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
The Rangers really overpaid for Copp.


Way too much for a player who never had more than 15 goals or 40 points in a season. He only had 9G 33A for DET this year - all that for 5.625 mil a year.
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Jun. 17, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
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Quoting: jpigeon2000
Way too much for a player who never had more than 15 goals or 40 points in a season. He only had 9G 33A for DET this year - all that for 5.625 mil a year.



NY is not the team that gave Copp 5.6 mil.
They got what they paid for and then some. NY went to ECF with Copp being a big piece.

Despise people spouting off ignorant comments with ignorant reasoning.
Jun. 17, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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NY is not the team that gave Copp 5.6 mil.
They got what they paid for and then some. NY went to ECF with Copp being a big piece.

Despise people spouting off ignorant comments with ignorant reasoning.


I am not denying he was a piece that helped NYR get to the ECF. I still feel it was an overpay. Frank Vatrano was acquired for a 4th rd pick (BTW - another big piece to the team in getting to the ECF). Compare his career stats to Copp (Vatrano:482 GP 211 pts .473 ppg Copp: 565 GP 244 pts .431ppg) - pretty similar. If talking the playoff run Copp had 14 pts (cost Barron 22 1st rd pick, 22 2nd rd pick and 5th rd pick) and Vatrano 13 pts (cost 22 4th rd pick). 1 extra playoff point for what was given up is an overpay.

I did not say NY gave him that money. The first portion of my reply provided reasoning on why I felt it was an overpay for Copp. The 2nd portion of my response was providing this years stats as further proof of an overpay. I am pretty sure DET was expecting more than 9 goals for the money they paid Copp.
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Jun. 18, 2023 at 1:28 a.m.
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Would have rather have had Copp( w/out the 5.6 hit) than Kane this past year. What a waste of time and resources to accommodate him. Now that was an overpay!!
Jun. 18, 2023 at 4:39 a.m.
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Would have rather have had Copp( w/out the 5.6 hit) than Kane this past year. What a waste of time and resources to accommodate him. Now that was an overpay!!


I hated the Kane move for plenty of reasons and I also considered that an overpay because everyone knew he was hurt - that 2nd rd pick could have been used for something else.

But what I hated more was how the Rangers mismanaged the roster the entire season (1st issue actually was from previous season).
1) They get Reaves in 21-22 and immediately sign him to that 1.75mil extension - that money cost them a chance to re-sign Motte at the end of the 22 season (then they have to use another pick to get him again this past season).
2) All season they should have been performing paper transactions with Schneider to gain cap space.
3) They held onto Kravtsov too long and picked up Motte too early (and taking on more salary in the process).
4) When Lindgren got hurt, he should have went on LTIR (missed 17 of the last 23 games - really only played the last 5 games of the season which were meaningless). That 3 mil (Lindgren's salary) could have been used to get a different forward like Max Domi or split the money across a few forwards (i.e. Bjudstad and Bonino for example).

Instead, they decided it was better to play short-handed to barely get enough space to get Kane. I honestly believe if they would have just put Lindgren on LITR and not had to play multiple games at end of the year with only 16 skaters (couple of games they had 10 forwards and 4 D) they would have gotten out of the 1st round - they were too tired.
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