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Created by: TheDuminator

Team: 2023-24 Anaheim Ducks

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2023

Published: Jun. 22, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I understand that both Michkov and Bonk won't be NHL ready before 3 years vs Fantilli in 1year.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Comtois, Maxime	2	$2,200,000
Drysdale, Jamie	3	$3,500,000
Terry, Troy	8	$6,500,000
Zegras, Trevor	8	$8,000,000
Benoit, Simon	5	$2,000,000
Dostal, Lukas	2	$1,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Harrington, Scott		2	$1,000,000
Shattenkirk, Kevin		1	$1,000,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Michkov, Matvei		3	$925,000
Bonk, Oliver		3	$925,000

Trades

ANA

Harris, Jordan
Heineman, Emil
2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2023 1st round pick (MTL)

Additional Details:

5OA (Michkov or Smith)
31 OA BONK RHD

MTL

Comtois, Maxime
2023 1st round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

2 OA Fantilli

Buyouts

Simon Despres: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$83,500,000	$67,649,584	$0	$3,507,500	$15,850,416

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Michkov, Matvei $925,000$925,000	Zegras, Trevor $8,000,000$8,000,000 C, LW RFA - 3	Terry, Troy $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW UFA - 7
Jones, Max $1,295,000$1,295,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	McTavish, Mason $894,167$894,167 ($2,500,000$2M) C, LW RFA - 2	Silfverberg, Jakob $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Vatrano, Frank $3,650,000$3,650,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Strome, Ryan $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, C UFA - 4	McGinn, Brock $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Henrique, Adam $1,456,250$1,456,250 LW, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Lundeström, Isac $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, LW RFA - 1	Carrick, Sam $425,000$425,000 C, RW UFA - 1
Heineman, Emil $897,500$897,500 LW, RW RFA - 2	Nesterenko, Nikita $925,000$925,000 C RFA - 1	Leason, Brett $775,000$775,000 RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Fowler, Cam $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Drysdale, Jamie $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD RFA - 3	Gibson, John $6,400,000$6,400,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Benoit, Simon $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Bonk, Oliver $925,000$925,000	Dostal, Lukas $1,000,000$1,000,000 G RFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Shattenkirk, Kevin $1,000,000$1,000,000 RD UFA - 1
Zellweger, Olen $844,167$844,167 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 3	LaCombe, Jackson $925,000$925,000 ($925,000$925K) LD/RD RFA - 1
Harrington, Scott $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD UFA
White, Colton $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Vaakanainen, Urho $850,000$850,000 LD/RD RFA - 1

Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.

Dan10900

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Absolutely zero chance I would do that trade!!!!

Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.

JeffFromMontreal

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IMO, Habs say yes. But I'm not sure Ducks would do this trade. And if I was Ducks GM, Harris is not the guy I ask for because LHD is not an issue for Anaheim...

Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:25 a.m.

jonh514

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Yikes. Never gonna happen and the way I know this is that it was an instant yes as a Habs fan.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:27 a.m.

TheDuminator

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Quoting: Dan10900

Absolutely zero chance I would do that trade!!!!

Quoting: Dan10900

Absolutely zero chance I would do that trade!!!!

from who... Ana or MTL

Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:32 a.m.

TheDuminator

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Quoting: JeffFromMontreal

IMO, Habs say yes. But I'm not sure Ducks would do this trade. And if I was Ducks GM, Harris is not the guy I ask for because LHD is not an issue for Anaheim...

Change Harris for anything else...
The point was if you are MTL: Do you prefer Michkov or Smith + PLD vs one Fantilli

Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:36 a.m.

Went_Wughes

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Quoting: jonh514

Yikes. Never gonna happen and the way I know this is that it was an instant yes as a Habs fan.

Really? I wouldn't do it. The difference between 2-5 in this draft is negligible. I would gamble of drafting 5th before giving any real assets. Especially moving Emil for a defunct Comtois. If there was a draft pick only compensation, I would consider it. But Im not trading for Fantilli like he's the next coming of Lemieux or Lindros. Just my 2 cents.

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 9:44 a.m.

JeffFromMontreal

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Change Harris for anything else...
The point was if you are MTL: Do you prefer Michkov or Smith + PLD vs one Fantilli

If I'm MTL, I prefer 2OA to 5OA + PLD. Not because I dislike PLD nor do I think Michkov or Smith are busts... I just think Fantilli is super special and is better suited for where the Habs are with their rebuild...

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Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:02 a.m.

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: Dan10900

Absolutely zero chance I would do that trade!!!!

I agree no way you get Fantilli for that

Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.

Dan10900

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Quoting: TheDuminator

from who... Ana or MTL

ANA

Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:05 a.m.

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Dan10900

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

I agree no way you get Fantilli for that

(As ANA)

Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:32 a.m.

#11

TheDuminator

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

I agree no way you get Fantilli for that

Even if there is rumours that Anaheim want Michkov

Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.

#12

GeneralLandro

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Quoting: TheDuminator

Even if there is rumours that Anaheim want Michkov

Those are BS

It was a phone call of someone’s thoughts about Verbeek being a guy who doesn’t care and they think he could be the guy to take him in the top 5 if anyone

Verbeek doesn’t let info out of Anaheim so how are there rumors about him?

Jun. 22, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.

#13

TheDuminator

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Quoting: GeneralLandro

I do agree... where their smokes they are not necessary fire... but If the most talented guy after Bedard is Michkov.. and Fantilli didn't earned the 2 OA spot at the world cup...
Personally I would go for Carson 2OA... but that's just me!

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