Would be shocked if Minnesota took that. You definitely have the right line of thinking in terms of style of player, but I think it'll take more than that especially considering Hartman's cap hit

That's a pretty junk offer for a player of Hartman's utility and cap hit.

Looks like I might be under rating him. Might edit and work out something more even. Thought process was that they are getting 2 young players under team control with low cost and Hartman can walk at UFA next year, but seems like I may still be low.

Might be underrating him, my bad. What extra pieces would you want if you were Minnesota to make it more even?

I don't think he's available until TDL for anything less than an overpay. He'll be a great TDL target for teams though.

Assuming he tracks for another 25-25 type of year, I would expect MN can get a 24 1st or a 2nd + good prospect. He's dirt cheap, plays wing and center, has some bite and can slot up and down the lineup.

Probably correct that deadline might make more sense. If Minnesota is still in it guessing they’d prefer to keep him.

Only risk is if the season goes poorly for him/the team return might take a hit. But guys like him are always in some demand around playoff time.

Yeah I think that's a gamble they're ok with - they let Dumba walk because they wanted him for playoffs, so I dont' think Guerin gets overly concerned about maximizing trade pieces.

Hartman plays 1C for us with Kaprizov, so assuming he stays healthy, he should be pretty productive just by way of that. I think if they're clean out of a playoff spot, he'll get dealt. If not, I could see him staying and just take the L on trade value.

Sheesh. I dont know how I was so off on Hartman’s slotting in the Minnesota lineup. Watched a lot of his game and love what he brings (and how he owns Binnington) but for some reason thought he was playing more of a middle 6 role. Yeah probably wise to hold on and see what comes at TDL. I do think he would be a great complementary 3rd line piece on NJ so maybe theres a fit there but also a team with less depth who views him as a 2nd line player may be willing to pay more.

Well in fairness, he shouldn't be a 1C and middle 6 is where he belongs. If it's a team that has cup aspirations, he'd be a good pickup for a 3rd line and can play up or down as needed depending on injuries.

Wild just dont' have anyone that's a real 1C. Ek is a better C, but he just doesn't work with Kaprizov very well. Hartman is a good trigger man with a sneaky good wrist shot and can play a pest role, so he'd for sure have value at his cap hit come TDL.

Keep an eye on him as the season kicks off - NJ would be an interesting landing spot.