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two year outlook

Created by: jwg314
Team: 2025-26 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 7, 2023
Published: Jul. 8, 2023
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I'm not sure how realistic my FA adds are, so feel free to tear me apart on that. I think Hellebuyck would love to finish his career in his hometown and then there's the Yzerman connection with Stamkos. Maybe Stamkos just wants to stick with TBL but maybe they're trending downwards two years from now. This really put into perspective for me how meh-to-bad the Chiarot/Copp/Compher/Holl signings are for DET. I think by '25-'26 they all end up 3rd-line/bottom pairing or bought out which is a lot of money to tie up there. I think they could have made a better top-6 addition if not for some of those.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$8,750,000
7$5,750,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,000,000
2$2,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$1,000,000
3$2,000,000
2$2,500,000
6$8,000,000
1$900,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$9,500,000
3$8,000,000
Trades
DET
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
OTT
  1. Berggren, Jonatan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$84,553,889$0$2,700,000$2,946,111

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW, C
UFA
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 6
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
RW, LW
RFA
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$905,833$905,833
LW
RFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 1
$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$5,100,000$5,100,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
RFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C
RFA
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,750,000$8,750,000
RD
RFA
$9,500,000$9,500,000
G
UFA - 6
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
RFA
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$900,000$900,000
LW
RFA

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Jul. 8, 2023 at 12:19 a.m.
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Love Stamkos and Wilson but why sign them in two years? Stammer 35, Wilson 31 and with his brand of hockey likely trending down. Hellebuyck also 32 and for that money? That would be kind of a yikes. I think he wants to go to a winning team now that he is still an elite goalie, not one that might be good in 3 years. You really don't need Stamkos or Wilson cause guys like Rasmussen and Soderblom plus others likely have a bigger roll on the team.
Jul. 8, 2023 at 12:22 a.m.
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Love Stamkos and Wilson but why sign them in two years? Stammer 35, Wilson 31 and with his brand of hockey likely trending down. Hellebuyck also 32 and for that money? That would be kind of a yikes. I think he wants to go to a winning team now that he is still an elite goalie, not one that might be good in 3 years. You really don't need Stamkos or Wilson cause guys like Rasmussen and Soderblom plus others likely have a bigger roll on the team.


I decided to make some changes because I forgot DeBrincat seems likely to end up in DET.
Jul. 8, 2023 at 12:25 a.m.
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Love Stamkos and Wilson but why sign them in two years? Stammer 35, Wilson 31 and with his brand of hockey likely trending down. Hellebuyck also 32 and for that money? That would be kind of a yikes. I think he wants to go to a winning team now that he is still an elite goalie, not one that might be good in 3 years. You really don't need Stamkos or Wilson cause guys like Rasmussen and Soderblom plus others likely have a bigger roll on the team.


I think Stamkos to age 38 at this cap hit is fine. Hellebuyck expires at 38 as well. I think that's fine. I kinda just settled on Roslovic as 2RW, but there's maybe a better option there. Like I said, I hate Yzerman's recent signings because he's tying up too much cap to mediocre when he could be making a better signing than Roslovic.
Jul. 8, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.
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Alright, I've opted to drop Roslovic and put DeBrincat on his natural wing, moving Mazur up to 2LW. Is Soderblom or Rasmussen a better option there?
Jul. 8, 2023 at 1:13 a.m.
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There are a few things on here that are probably not accurate. For one; the cap is projected to go up at least 10 million over the next two years. So we're talking 94 million not 87. Second; I seriously doubt that Yzerman is going to tie up 17 million dollars for two 32+ year olds. Especially after preaching patience and building the core through the draft. Also, Moose will make more and unless Raymond's season is just insane; he's likely signing a 3 or 4 year bridge.
Jul. 8, 2023 at 1:19 a.m.
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There are a few things on here that probably not accurate. For one; the cap is projected to go up 10 million at least over the next two years. So we're talking 94 million not 87. Second; I seriously doubt that Yzerman is going to tie up 17 million dollars for two 32+ year olds. Especially after preaching patience and building the core through the draft. Also, Moose will make more and unless Raymond's season is just insane; he's likely signing a 3 or 4 year bridge.


Is that accurate on the cap? I've used this as a general for 25-26 ACGMs based on not much.

I guess you could pass on Stamkos but Hellebuyck seems like a good fit. He still has 7+ years left in him and is a hometown kid. Do you have more optimism in Cossa than I do? What's your solution in net there?
Jul. 8, 2023 at 3:41 a.m.
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Is that accurate on the cap? I've used this as a general for 25-26 ACGMs based on not much.

I guess you could pass on Stamkos but Hellebuyck seems like a good fit. He still has 7+ years left in him and is a hometown kid. Do you have more optimism in Cossa than I do? What's your solution in net there?


Yeah i saw that figure in an article on daily faceoff. If Hellebuck wants to come home he won't get that term or dollar amount. Steve does not like to give term to anyone. He has repeated this quite a bit in press conferences. And he also talked about not committing high dollars to anyone older than Larkin. To answer your other question; I'm cautiously optimistic after Cossa had a great second half in the ECHL. And if he doesn't work out we have Augustine who I like a lot. Also there's always free agency, lol.
Jul. 8, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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Is that accurate on the cap? I've used this as a general for 25-26 ACGMs based on not much.

I guess you could pass on Stamkos but Hellebuyck seems like a good fit. He still has 7+ years left in him and is a hometown kid. Do you have more optimism in Cossa than I do? What's your solution in net there?


Quoting: RedWing9119
Yeah i saw that figure in an article on daily faceoff. If Hellebuck wants to come home he won't get that term or dollar amount. Steve does not like to give term to anyone. He has repeated this quite a bit in press conferences. And he also talked about not committing high dollars to anyone older than Larkin. To answer your other question; I'm cautiously optimistic after Cossa had a great second half in the ECHL. And if he doesn't work out we have Augustine who I like a lot. Also there's always free agency, lol.


I think Husso is a better goalie than his numbers showed last year. Don't know if he is a long term option but he is a starter. I'm not sold on Cossa and I hated the trade at the time. I thought Wallstedt was better and protected better. Cossa had a really really good Edmonton team in front of him but he did show some brilliance. I was really high on Lyssel, Johnston and Ceulmans at the time and seeing Dallas take Johnston with the pick that was ours and seeing how good he's been doing so far really bugs me. So I'm really hoping Cossa can get to a good starter level or I'm going to consider that a bad move by Yzerman.
 
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