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Trade stolen from a trade machine thread

Created by: pretzelcoatl
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 26, 2023
Published: Jul. 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$975,000
Trades
NJD
  1. Hellebuyck, Connor ($3,066,756 retained)
  2. Scheifele, Mark
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (MTL)
WPG
  1. Filmon, Josh
  2. Foote, Nolan
  3. Haula, Erik
  4. Vanecek, Vitek
  5. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
  6. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
  7. 2024 5th round pick (COL)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,235,745$422,500$2,175,000$2,264,255
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,099,911$3,099,911
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1

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Jul. 26, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:01 p.m.
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No from Jersey.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Fabi
No from Jersey.


Why? Look at it this way:

Haula+trade down 10-15 spots for Scheifele

Foote, Filmon, Vanecek, 3rd, 5th for Hellebuyck

It's an amazing trade for NJ. Only problem is Haula would block it with his full NTC
Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Terrible for Winnipeg, no thanks.
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Terrible for Winnipeg, no thanks.


I don't disagree. I posted this to make a point to people saying it's bad for NJ
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Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:08 p.m.
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Pretty easy no from Winnipeg. Nothing needed or of any quality outside of a mid to late 1st.

Winnipeg would opt for less quantity and some actual quality for a full year of both players when they easily get more at the TDL.

Trades don't work like this, it's not one team giving up a bunch of disappointing players and propects that have no potential left and very little value for a couple high end desirable players. There has to be something that the team giving up the high end players would actually value.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl


Your mistake was copying a trade from a troll poster.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Why? Look at it this way:

Haula+trade down 10-15 spots for Scheifele

Foote, Filmon, Vanecek, 3rd, 5th for Hellebuyck

It's an amazing trade for NJ. Only problem is Haula would block it with his full NTC


My Problem is with the Scheifle Part, Hellebucky could fetch that return. There is just no reason to trade for Scheifle, Haula has worked fine on the third, and even though Scheifle's offensive skills of course would be an upgrade his defensive play and work attitude are abysmal.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Fabi
My Problem is with the Scheifle Part, Hellebucky could fetch that return. There is just no reason to trade for Scheifle, Haula has worked fine on the third, and even though Scheifle's offensive skills of course would be an upgrade his defensive play and work attitude are abysmal.


I think Scheifele is so much better than Haula that it doesn't matter at all. The price to make the move is just trading back 10-15 spots from the late first to mid 2nd. Last time we made a deal like that we were able to draft Casey
Jul. 26, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I think Scheifele is so much better than Haula that it doesn't matter at all. The price to make the move is just trading back 10-15 spots from the late first to mid 2nd. Last time we made a deal like that we were able to draft Casey


I say it again and partly agree with you, Scheifle is offensively much better than Haula, you are right about that but as the third-line center I would rather have Haula because of Scheifels bad defensive game and work attitude.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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No need for Winnipeg to pay a 2nd in a deal like this. On top of that, it’s just really unnecessary for NJ to ship Haula out after signing a 3 year deal, for Scheifele who is more of a top 6 role and expires in one year anyways.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: jnorrrr
No need for Winnipeg to pay a 2nd in a deal like this. On top of that, it’s just really unnecessary for NJ to ship Haula out after signing a 3 year deal, for Scheifele who is more of a top 6 role and expires in one year anyways.


I agree on Haula, and he wouldn't waive his NTC anyway. I disagree that player roles matter, I think there shouldn't be such a thing as a "third line role." This was just an experiment to show that this proposal from trade machine is good for NJ since there were comments hating on it from both sides.
Jul. 26, 2023 at 2:49 p.m.
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Chevy laughs and blocks your number
Jul. 26, 2023 at 2:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Jets12Kozy
Chevy laughs and blocks your number


Yes I'm aware, as I said in the title I took this from another thread
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