Would rather Necas TBH... even if it's just 1 for 1 or Necas + something...

It would have to be Nylander + for Necas. Necas had 15 fewer points, but is 3 years younger and team controlled. For a rental Nylander, the Leafs would need to add for Necas, not the other way around.

This, as a base doesn't make sense. Carolina needs a RHD back for Pesce (Please note I said RHD, this means Brodie can pound sand) whether that's Lilly or someone from another team like Joki, Nylander doesn't make sense. Carolina would want to move Pesce to avoid losing him for nothing. Otherwise, trading him for another player they're going to lose for nothing makes no sense. Just go into the season with the Frakenblueline

Necas doesn't have more value than Nylander... Necas (like you said) had 16 less points but also 12 less goals... I think that if anyone needs to add, it'll be Carolina as they'll be getting the best player in the deal

I don't like Pesce so I can't be bothered to read the 2nd paragraph but I'll put it as this: No, Lilly will not be added onto a Nylander for Pesce trade unless something of more value comes back

Presumably orlov or skjei comes over to the right. Carolina has 5 legit top 4 dmen, so it just seems like they're primed to make a move. Maybe they move skjei instead. But if they did move pesce it seems like their d core will not only still be intact but elite. And then add nylander...

I don't see why carolina would ever trade Necas. And besides, the Leafs need to build their defense more than anything, no?

Moving Skjei makes more sense to keep the LH-RH balance. Slavin - Burns Orlov - DeAngelo Skjei - Pesce works now because that perfect 6 is a LH-RH combination. Having Orlov play on the right would be bad because it prohibits him moving the puck as well as he can do, and the Canes system that relies so heavily on point shots would need Orlov to come more central for a better angle. It's why it's built the way it is

Necas is 3 years younger and team controlled, for a rental Nylander, Toronto definitely needs to add. 1 year of Nylander isn't worth multiple of Necas.

I totally agree with this assessment. But then you probably won't get a nylander straight up for skjei. And also, maybe skjei resigns for cheaper than pesce. i find it hard to believe that if Treliving were to make this offer that carolina wouldnt strongly consider it.

Carolina down this pretty quickly. You won't get Nylander for Skjei, but who says Nylander is a target? Carolina hate paying big prices for guys on expring deals anyway. You can move Skjei elsewhere considering you don't need to re-sign him now that Orlov is a Hurricane. Pesce's much more required because of the issues at RD without him. 39 year old Brent Burns, Tony DeAngelo, Jalen Chatfield and Dylan Coghlan ain't filling me with confidence

Nylander+ for Necas? What? Lol

Wait who are you valuing higher? I would have thought that pesce is more valuable than skjei. Is this wrong?

I'm not saying Carolina is targeting Nylander but I imagine they're looking at ways to get better particularly in terms of forward depth. Do you think you can get a better player than nylander by keeping pesce and trading skjei?

Pesce is more valuable than Skjei. Skjei makes more sense to move because he's already lost his spot in the top 4 to Orlov, Carolina's RD without Pesce is far weaker than the LD without Skjei.

Forward *depth* is not something the Canes need. They already have one of the deepest winger cores in the league. They need KK to take another step. They don't need to be weakening the D core, especially on the right in exchange for a winger that... arguably doesn't get on the top line?

Fair enough.