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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 16, 2023 at 7:03 p.m.
Thread: Monster deadline move
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>soft_dump_in_the_corner</b></div><div>It doesn't make sense to trade out roster players, especially young ones that are under team control beyond this year, to bring in Tanev &amp; Lindholm. Instead of adding to what you already have you've now just made marginal upgrades to those positions at the cost of a significant amount of draft capital, and at least Lindholm would be walking at the end of the year.

The Leafs are also going to need every bit of defensive help they can get this postseason, and that means keeping Liljgren too.</div></div>

I would argue that these would be major upgrades to our d and offense. Both tanev amd linholm are bug impact players. Tanev is a better version of mccabe on the right side. If we're discussing getting every bit of help for the playoffs, I would also prefer tanev to liljegren for a postseason run. I also think these are middling assetts we'd be giving up and parting with them for impact players is exactly what we need to do.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 19, 2023 at 3:29 p.m.
Thread: Remind me why this would be bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Carolina down this pretty quickly. You won't get Nylander for Skjei, but who says Nylander is a target? Carolina hate paying big prices for guys on expring deals anyway. You can move Skjei elsewhere considering you don't need to re-sign him now that Orlov is a Hurricane. Pesce's much more required because of the issues at RD without him. 39 year old Brent Burns, Tony DeAngelo, Jalen Chatfield and Dylan Coghlan ain't filling me with confidence</div></div>

Wait who are you valuing higher? I would have thought that pesce is more valuable than skjei. Is this wrong?

I'm not saying Carolina is targeting Nylander but I imagine they're looking at ways to get better particularly in terms of forward depth. Do you think you can get a better player than nylander by keeping pesce and trading skjei?
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 19, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
Thread: Remind me why this would be bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Moving Skjei makes more sense to keep the LH-RH balance. Slavin - Burns Orlov - DeAngelo Skjei - Pesce works now because that perfect 6 is a LH-RH combination. Having Orlov play on the right would be bad because it prohibits him moving the puck as well as he can do, and the Canes system that relies so heavily on point shots would need Orlov to come more central for a better angle. It's why it's built the way it is</div></div>

I totally agree with this assessment. But then you probably won't get a nylander straight up for skjei. And also, maybe skjei resigns for cheaper than pesce. i find it hard to believe that if Treliving were to make this offer that carolina wouldnt strongly consider it.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 19, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
Thread: Remind me why this would be bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>It would have to be Nylander + for Necas. Necas had 15 fewer points, but is 3 years younger and team controlled. For a rental Nylander, the Leafs would need to add for Necas, not the other way around.

This, as a base doesn't make sense. Carolina needs a RHD back for Pesce (Please note I said RHD, this means Brodie can pound sand) whether that's Lilly or someone from another team like Joki, Nylander doesn't make sense. Carolina would want to move Pesce to avoid losing him for nothing. Otherwise, trading him for another player they're going to lose for nothing makes no sense. Just go into the season with the Frakenblueline</div></div>

Presumably orlov or skjei comes over to the right. Carolina has 5 legit top 4 dmen, so it just seems like they're primed to make a move. Maybe they move skjei instead. But if they did move pesce it seems like their d core will not only still be intact but elite. And then add nylander...
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
Thread: Trading Nylander again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>A 1C who is a right shot is worth significantly more than a wing. Add in a guy who is slotted in as 1RD at 50% salary. Nylander's value goes down because teams know Toronto doesn't want to pay him. Calgary could sign him next summer for nothing. Minten may be highly touted in TOR, but he hasn't made done anything outside the WHL to show he has higher potential than other 2nd Rd picks. Still think the 1st should go to Calgary</div></div>

This is objectively not true. All analyses say that nylander is owed a higher contract than lindholm. This factors in position. Therefore nylander is worth more. Calgary is having a similar problem resigning lindholm, therefore your argument of diminishing value would apply to lindholm as well