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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 9:01 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>Lindholm has not said he will not resign. He hasn't made contract demands either</div></div>

I think I saw in the athletic today that he was looking for 8.7mill and that management was biding their tume

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:56 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>There is absolutely no way possible that you guarantee the extensions for these players. Besides can't think of a reason why the Leafs would extend Lindholm for seven years which would start when he nearly 30 years of age.</div></div>

You see no way possible?!? That's a bit shortsighted. Anyways this is a fantasy trade contingent on them signing so if you're s@%#ting on that part of the proposal then you need to lighten up.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>A 1C who is a right shot is worth significantly more than a wing. Add in a guy who is slotted in as 1RD at 50% salary. Nylander's value goes down because teams know Toronto doesn't want to pay him. Calgary could sign him next summer for nothing. Minten may be highly touted in TOR, but he hasn't made done anything outside the WHL to show he has higher potential than other 2nd Rd picks. Still think the 1st should go to Calgary</div></div>

This is objectively not true. All analyses say that nylander is owed a higher contract than lindholm. This factors in position. Therefore nylander is worth more. Calgary is having a similar problem resigning lindholm, therefore your argument of diminishing value would apply to lindholm as well

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:39 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CorrosionRF</b></div><div>Calgary declines emphatically</div></div>

Thanks for giving your opinion without any reason. I really valued it.

We don't really know what the new management's plan is and if they're looking beyond this year, I don't think they pass EMPHATICALLY given the value coming back.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BURGHgirl</b></div><div>The 1st should be going to Calgary. Lindholm, Tanev and retention is worth more than Nylander and a prospect</div></div>

I disagree. On there own the deal is somewhat balanced. The retention is simply 1 year of 2.5 mill. Calagary is getting the best and third best player in this deal. They would only do this deal if they are thinking 1 to 2 years into the future (which they probably should) in which case the retention doesn't matter much

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

It kind of depends on whether calgary is absolutely in win now mode or if they think a quick retool makes more sense. If I'm calgary and I'm retooling, minten becomes a very interesting prospect and I care much less about keeping tanev

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 3, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.

Thread: Trading Nylander again

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NoWah49</b></div><div>Lindholm and Nylander have similar value imo</div></div>

Certainly similar but every analyst ive read or listened to thinks nylander deserves a higher contract ranging from 0.5 to 0.8 million more. That tells me he's a better player even when position is factored in. I would also value minten as moderately higher than a 2025 1st round pick from florida.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2023 at 11:17 p.m.

Thread: Make Pesce work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>homiedaclown</b></div><div>Bc Leafs fans on here are DESPERATELY trying to get something of value for Nylander before he walks for nothing after this season</div></div>

I don't know. Desperate sounds more like trolling the comments section on capfriendly.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2023 at 11:10 p.m.

Thread: Make Pesce work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>homiedaclown</b></div><div>Nah, wishful thinking

And it’s a big difference getting a pick in the 20s,
VS a late 2nd

“Homer” logic at its finest here, Lol</div></div>

Early* second. I said phillys second pick that carolina owns. Homer comment

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2023 at 10:57 p.m.

Thread: Make Pesce work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>evelutions2</b></div><div>If Pesce for Nylander was going to happen, it would have happened in the last 5-6 years. Both players have grown more important to their respective teams, so why would the status quo change?</div></div>

Lots of reasons. The needs of the team have changed, better players in the pipeline, culture sours, talks with agents don't move forward. Things often change in the last year of contracts.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.

Thread: Make Pesce work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Flyers decline. I’d rather have a 1st and a 2nd for Laughton than this offer and they already turned the 1st and 2nd down so this isn’t enough.</div></div>

That's fair. I imagine though with picks +/- Robertson, you can conceivably get laughton.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2023 at 10:36 p.m.

Thread: Make Pesce work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>homiedaclown</b></div><div>It’s ABSURD to think Chicago would do that

They’re essentially taking Murray at $8.25mil bc they’re keeping $2mil of Nylander- and for ONLY a 2nd ?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Good luck with that nonsense</div></div>

Weird reaction. It's all about precedent. Last year, Chicago took on Mrazek's 7.6 mill (8.6 in actual salary) contract to move up about 8 spots from mid thirties to high twenties. So yes, I can see Chicago, a cap floor team, paying well for a mid thirties draft pick from philly.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 16, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.

Thread: Would Nylander take a 1 year deal

If Nylander is older, wouldn't it make more sense for Matthews for to take a 1 year deal, especially given that Matthews will be the eventual leader of the team.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2023 at 3:12 p.m.

Thread: Dubas taking Murray

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockey_Mind</b></div><div>Keep dreaming.</div></div>

Of what exactly? Dubas making the same types of moves he always likes making or overpaying for free agents like Treliving has shown he's good at doing?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.

Thread: Dubas taking Murray

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsradynasty</b></div><div>So, Dubas doubles down on stupid huh?</div></div>

I mean he did when he signed Murray right after getting rid of Mrazek. And this is a better deal. A lower salary for one year. Plus Murray's a hero in Pittsburgh. It's not like Murray had been healthy coming to the leafs so weirder things have happened.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.

Thread: Who can we land

Yeah maybe... he'd look great in a leafs jersey

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 8, 2023 at 4:27 p.m.

Thread: Who can we land

The 3rd and 5th are essentially for Murray. The 1st and two top leafs prospects are for dubois. Maybe its a but light and if so I'm sure the leafs can add. But I don't imagine his value is as high as it should given he's asking for a trade and his contract is unknown

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 24, 2022 at 1:32 p.m.

Thread: Chicago trade

Who cares. I'm a leafs fan. I just want one good year.

Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 24, 2022 at 1:21 p.m.

Thread: Chicago trade

True but this team with Kane is still amazing. Sometimes you gotta go for it. Also Knies may come in and take that LW spot before the playoffs.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21, 2022 at 6:31 a.m.

Thread: Dubas start Apologizing to Mason

While I think Josh Manson would be a good addition to this team, didn't he say that he had no interest in playing for the leafs?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 21, 2022 at 6:19 a.m.

Thread: Trade for Wilson

I have no idea. I'm not a GM. But it's effectively Sandin, a 1st, and Kerfoot (who's worth at least a 2nd) in exchange for 2 years of retained Wilson and a third. Maybe drop the third coming from Washington but isn't that the standard for these kind of trades? Obviously it assumes a rebuild from Washington.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 12, 2019 at 11:50 a.m.

Thread: Ridiculous but lots of fun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mikearky</b></div><div>San Jose wants Marleau back as much as Toronto fans want him. They will have no money to resign their own players like Meier, Leblanc, Donskoi, Pavelski, Thorton and guys like Nyquist and Kalrsson.

SO PLEASE MAPLE LEAF FANS STOP TRADING MARLEAU BACK TO SAN JOSE. THEY DO NOT WANT HIM..</div></div>

Well obviously, no one really wants him at such a ridiculous cap hit. But if you COULD fit him under the cap (and honestly, who knows what happens with karlsson or thorton), then San Jose makes the most sense. He makes 1.25 mill in salary after July 1st and San Jose stands to make the most selling his jersey and 'retiring the legend'.

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