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Blues retool

Created by: AK50
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 9, 2023
Published: Aug. 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2026 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Gaudette, Adam
  2. Parayko, Colton ($665,000 retained)
2.
STL
  1. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Blais, Samuel ($500,000 retained)
3.
STL
  1. 2024 5th round pick (ARI)
ARI
  1. Walker, Nathan
Additional Details:
So he can play at home(Australia)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$80,821,429$20,000$0$2,678,571

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$2,625,000$2,625,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 2
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$3,275,000$3,275,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$816,667$816,667
C
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$800,000$800,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD/RD
RFA - 2

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Aug. 26, 2023 at 9:18 a.m.
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Leafs Fan Forever!
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The leafs need to get RID of cap. We don't need more...
Aug. 26, 2023 at 9:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Letsgoleafs
The leafs need to get RID of cap. We don't need more...

I'm not the author of this AGM, but acquiring Blais at a cap hit of 500k does exactly that. Maybe not as much as you want but if he replaces any forward at or above league minimum, TOR saves at least 275k.
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Aug. 26, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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Until I see evidence of him reversing the negative trend in his play since Pietro left, I wouldn't pay 2 1sts to upgrade from Ceci to Parayko, even with the retention.
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Aug. 26, 2023 at 10:14 a.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
Until I see evidence of him reversing the negative trend in his play since Pietro left, I wouldn't pay 2 1sts to upgrade from Ceci to Parayko, even with the retention.


I'm in on Parayko, but the deal probably needs to swap Bourgault for Foegle to make it work.
Honestly though, I don't know anything about gaudette. What kind of player is he?
Aug. 26, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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HARD pass on all of that.
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Aug. 26, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: KiSS_My_Asthma
I'm in on Parayko, but the deal probably needs to swap Bourgault for Foegle to make it work.
Honestly though, I don't know anything about gaudette. What kind of player is he?


He’s depth.

Blues can’t trade Parayko. There’s reason for other fanbases to be weary of acquiring him I get it. But he’s the sole reason that Justin Faulk puts up good numbers and we’re “somewhat” able to run two offensive pairings.

He ranks 9th for EV TOI at 20:38 per game. Only ahead of him are the following (Ek65, Chabot, Dahlin,Josi, Doughty, Power, Larsson). There are roughly 14 defenseman that logged around 20 minutes ES per game of those here are their even strength zone start %s in descending order.

Karlsson 64.7%
Dunn 61.8
Heiskenan 61
Larsson 60.1
Josi 59.8
Toews 57.3
Morrissey 56.7
Power 55.8
Dahlin 55.5
Letang 55.2
Hughes 53.1
Doughty 50.4
Chabot 48.7
Parayko 37.7

So what you have is a guy playing top 10 minutes in the league, and being relied upon 2/3rds of the time to start his shift in the defensive zone on a team that has 2 responsibly defensive forwards (this is with counting ROR). You also have a goalie that is pretty inconsistent, although last year contrary to numbers he wasn’t really that bad.

What does all of this mean? He is virtually set up to fail. Pair this with his partners for the past 2 seasons have primarily been Niko Mikkola, Marco Scandella and Nick Leddy. That means you are also putting those caliber of players in the same usage 90% of the time. The first two are essentially depth defensive defenseman who move the puck like it’s 2 seconds away from exploding. And the latter doesn’t have strengths that are warranting that type of usage.

It’s a bad formula in general. Parayko certainly hasn’t ascended as many of us had hoped. But he’s far from regressed. He hasn’t built on his weaknesses like we had hoped (shot accuracy, first pass, general playmaking from the point) but he still has his strengths (elite skating, massive frame, heavy heavy shot) and he’s still essentially a gaurantee for 30 points a season in monumentally bad usage.

Blues trade Parayko the whole backend crumbles even harder. Out of this I just hope it’s a little clearer why Blues fans and I’m assuming the front office would want the moon for this player even though his player card found online made by an independent model is doesn’t outline why his “performance” doesn’t show well.

Also, yes the term is scary it is for almost anyone that sings a contract from age 28-30. But with the cap rising and him essentially being paid #2 money now. When the contract starts to become bad (probably with 2 years left on it) the % of the cap should reflect payment of what a #4 receives. Which is completely stomachable considering what you’re getting for the first 5 years.
Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: SupremeBone
Until I see evidence of him reversing the negative trend in his play since Pietro left, I wouldn't pay 2 1sts to upgrade from Ceci to Parayko, even with the retention.


I’d very much doubt blues do this trade as is anyway
Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
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Quoting: KiSS_My_Asthma
I'm in on Parayko, but the deal probably needs to swap Bourgault for Foegle to make it work.
Honestly though, I don't know anything about gaudette. What kind of player is he?


Then it wouldn’t work for the blues and honestly I can’t see it working now
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Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
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I’d very much doubt blues do this trade as is anyway

Totally fair. AC14 outlined pretty clear reasoning for why, too.

Everything from his stlye of play, the role he plays, the Dmen he plays with, and the outside perception of him reads a lot like how EDM fans view Nurse. The guy has been putting in difficult & big minutes alongside non-optimal partners for 3 years now just like Parayko. The key difference is that Nurse's 5-on-5 relative goal share numbers didn't crater in that time like Parayko's have. It's very likely both's numbers would improve if their partner was the other, but it's just difficult to assess what that'll translate to in on-ice success and, therefore, how much it's worth in trade.

If we operate under the (likely false) premise that STL would be open to trading Parayko with 1.5mil retained, what kind of package would you look for in return (whether from EDM or another team)?
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Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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Edmonton doesn't have the cap for Parayko. Even if they did, Parayko's numbers do not inspire a lot of confidence for that money.
Aug. 26, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.
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Totally fair. AC14 outlined pretty clear reasoning for why, too.

Everything from his stlye of play, the role he plays, the Dmen he plays with, and the outside perception of him reads a lot like how EDM fans view Nurse. The guy has been putting in difficult & big minutes alongside non-optimal partners for 3 years now just like Parayko. The key difference is that Nurse's 5-on-5 relative goal share numbers didn't crater in that time like Parayko's have. It's very likely both's numbers would improve if their partner was the other, but it's just difficult to assess what that'll translate to in on-ice success and, therefore, how much it's worth in trade.

If we operate under the (likely false) premise that STL would be open to trading Parayko with 1.5mil retained, what kind of package would you look for in return (whether from EDM or another team)?


Yup exactly he’s very good but one of those guys that doesn’t show it on the scoresheet nessairly

It’s because he’s first 2 seasons he was so good offensively people think that’s the type of player he can be but he just isn’t
 
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