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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 31, 2023
Published: Aug. 31, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Jones, Seth ($1,000,000 retained)
2.
3.
VAN
  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. 2024 7th round pick (OTT)
  3. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
4.
TOR
  1. Schneider, Braden
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$78,850,334$0$1,250,000$4,649,666
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,456,250$1,456,250
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New York Rangers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Sep. 1, 2023 at 10:11 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
If the Hawks declined this Davidson would get fired.

Jones is easily the worst contract in the league. Your "veteran D" is a $9M AHLer. If anyone is crazy enough to take more than 75% of the contract you kiss them, count your lucky stars and immediately ship him off.

yes, IMMEDIATELY


Nice take. Spoken like a true hater. I'll take multiple years of Jones over one year of Nylander all day long. It's not even debatable. If you think Seth is a $9m AHL'er, you obviously don't know much about hockey.
Sep. 1, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
#27
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Quoting: klassic
Chicago doesn't need to buyout Seth Jones. They are FAR below the cap now, and cap goes up in future. They are not in a position to overpay a free agent like Nylander next season.

Not really a unique situation. 1 GM constantly mortgages future to try and compete, overpays defenseman. New GM knows the pieces aren't the and blows it up.


It's actually so unique that it's literally the only situation of it's kind to have happened to this extent. You could argue Karlsson, but at least the Sharks were competitive at that time. The Hawks were already meh, traded for Jones and signed him long term at $9.5 and almost immediately after underwent probably the most scorched of any scorched earth rebuild in league history.
Sep. 1, 2023 at 10:18 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Our right side is already full in case you didn't bother to check, we've already added veteran D to mentor our young, offensively minded D, and you're forgetting the minor detail that his contract is A$$. A team that hasn't started to climb out of the rebuild doesn't want to pay a 5 million player 7.5 million dollars. Have a little awareness.


As far as awareness goes, I'm aware that you just signed Gudas at 12 mil for 3 years and Killorn at 25 mil for 4 years, but please keep making stuff up and pretend you don't have the most cap space in the league. Your right side is definitely full, no room there. Next stop cup finals!
Sep. 1, 2023 at 11:19 p.m.
#29
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
As far as awareness goes, I'm aware that you just signed Gudas at 12 mil for 3 years and Killorn at 25 mil for 4 years, but please keep making stuff up and pretend you don't have the most cap space in the league. Your right side is definitely full, no room there. Next stop cup finals!


The F*** does cap space have to do with it? I said we don't want to pay his salary. Acquiring Brodie doesn't get us to the playoffs either, so why give up the guy we play at 1LW to acquire a 4th RD? Especially one who has a terrible contract for a rebuilding team?

Oh, because it helps Toronto, that's why......

Again, hard pass.
Sep. 2, 2023 at 1:14 a.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
The F*** does cap space have to do with it? I said we don't want to pay his salary. Acquiring Brodie doesn't get us to the playoffs either, so why give up the guy we play at 1LW to acquire a 4th RD? Especially one who has a terrible contract for a rebuilding team?

Oh, because it helps Toronto, that's why......

Again, hard pass.


"We" don't want to pay his salary? You don't pay anyone's salary buddy. Your top pair consists of your 21 year old blue chip in Jamie Drysdale and a defensive sieve in Cam Fowler. Beyond that you have two rookies in Helleson and Lacombe who have played less than 3 NHL games, a regular healthy scratch in Hagg, and Radko Gudas... but yes, let's pretend Brodie would go from playing top pair on the team who finished 5th in the regular season last year to "4RD" on the elite defense core that is the Anaheim Ducks.

Meanwhile you just signed Killorn and added Carlsson to a forward core that was already your strength.,.. A terrible contract? He has one year remaining at 5 mil lol. This is how rebuilding teams start to grow, by bringing in veterans to guide the young guys, in this case a guy who has been elite defensively on a solid team. But sure, let's pretend a guy who hasn't scored more than 43 points since 2016, and whose best season is 51 points with only one other 50 point season, who costs more against the cap (the thing that matters despite you pretending your bank account will take a hit) is more valuable.

The two worst contracts on your roster for a rebuilding team are the ones you just signed, Gudas and Killorn...

This is a good trade for you. It's not a matter of opinion, I'm just letting you know, because you clearly don't know much. Please keep talking out your ass though as if the additional 2 mil your owner has to pay is the sticking point.
Sep. 2, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
I was originally basing my post on the idea that Schneider would be getting a huge increase, but already acknowledged my mistake of not knowing Trouba's NTC ends after this year. But yes, of course anyone takes Schneider over Jarnkrok. Way to pretend like that was the trade....


Why would Schneider get a huge increase? He’ll get something along the lines of 3 years $2.5m
 
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