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Go 11 and 7 - keep everyone

Created by: TCMonkey
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 14, 2023
Published: Sep. 14, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Sending Joseph to BEL to start the season, and starting 11-7 would be enough.
Then we can call him up as soon as an injury creates the cap space, which we know will happen.
So the only question is WOULD Pinto sign a one year deal for $1.945M
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RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,945,000
1$775,000
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$80,999,880$0$1,850,000$2,500,120
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,945,000$1,945,000
C
RFA - 1
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Sep. 14, 2023 at 5:32 p.m.
#26
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Edited Sep. 14, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
He's fine he made a legit point trying to not go out of your way to piss off players is a good idea. Agreeable negotiations are always better than contentious ones. However you sometimes have to play a bit of hardball when one side basically has no choice but,being the nail.
I like if someone disagrees with me and present an intelligent response. I understand his point forcing a cheaper deal may puss the player off. As I said earlier I'm pretty sure it hurt TB with Colton which absolutely f***ING sucks!!!

But it doesn't have to be by "pissing off the player". Sit with Pinto and his agents, explain :

- Your friends (this core) are ready to compete and want to make the playoffs at all costs. We are tight with the cap for THIS season only. Next year, we'll have all the margin necessary.

- We need you to sign a 1 year bridge and then sign a long term contract as soon as next season. The great news for you is that we can ink that deal as soon as January, which is in 3.5 months.

- If you take 1.5 AAV x 1 year now but then sign 4.5 AAV on a long term contract, you end up making 6.0 M$ over the next 2 years as opposed to 5.0 M$ if you sign the 2.5 AAV x 2 years contract you wanted.



As you can see, this 1 year deal is beneficiary for both sides. It doesn't mean any disrespect or anything, just a particular context with a flat cap and the Sens having 5 M$ in dead money (that expires soon). Pinto knows he's going to be the next in line to receive a long term contract

And regarding that poster, it's more about the crazy statements that he makes, like that Mathieu Joseph is barely a 4th liner. As a Tampa fan you know this is ridiculous

Over the last 3 seasons, among the 519 forwards who played at least 500 ES minutes, Joseph ranks 273th with 1.64 Pts/60 (higher than Kubalik, Pageau, Granlund, Yamamoto, Wennberg, Laughton (lol), Hoffman, Perry, etc)

He is a defensive forward and PK specialist and yet produces like an average 8th/9th forward. He is not "barely a 4th liner" in any shape or form.
Sep. 14, 2023 at 5:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Xspyrit
But it doesn't have to be by "pissing off the player". Sit with Pinto and his agents, explain :

- Your friends (this core) are ready to compete and want to make the playoffs at all costs. We are tight with the cap for THIS season only. Next year, we'll have all the margin necessary.

- We need you to sign a 1 year bridge and then sign a long term contract as soon as next season. The great news for you is that we can ink that deal as soon as January, which is in 3.5 months.

- If you take 1.5 AAV x 1 year now but then sign 4.5 AAV on a long term contract, you end up making 6.0 M$ over the next 2 years as opposed to 5.0 M$ if you sign the 2.5 AAV x 2 years contract you wanted.



As you can see, this 1 year deal is beneficiary for both sides. It doesn't mean any disrespect or anything, just a particular context with a flat cap and the Sens having 5 M$ in dead money (that expires soon). Pinto knows he's going to be the next in line to receive a long term contract

And regarding that poster, it's more about the crazy statements that he makes, like that Mathieu Joseph is barely a 4th liner. As a Tampa fan you know this is ridiculous

Over the last 3 seasons, among the 519 forwards who played at least 500 ES minutes, Joseph ranks 273th with 1.64 Pts/60 (higher than Kubalik, Pageau, Granlund, Yamamoto, Wennberg, Laughton (lol), Hoffman, Perry, etc

He is a defensive forward and PK specialist and yet produces like an average 8th/9th forward. He is not "barely a 4th liner" in any shape or form.


Yes big fan of #7 at least he wore 7 in TB. I generally ignore or try to a person or 2 I don't mind telling to go f-themselves
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