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Next Phase Habs

Created by: Kris1983
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Oct. 12, 2023
Published: Oct. 12, 2023
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Despite winning 8-1 last night, Vancouver is out of the hunt and the future is looking bleak, Petterson has leverage to get away, he can sign his Qualifying offer and walk to UFA next season or file for arbitration and accept the one year award still ending up as a UFA the following year.
Sean Monahan becomes the TDL version that the habs have hoped for in 2022-23.
Kirby Dach progresses and shows he's on the bubble of a being a 1C.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$10,500,000
3$900,000
3$2,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$3,000,000
6$7,500,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Garland, Conor
  2. Pettersson, Elias [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Also Sending 1st round pick from Sean Monahan deal.
VAN
  1. Dach, Kirby
  2. Farrell, Sean
  3. Harris, Jordan
  4. 2025 1st round pick (MTL)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the WSH
2025
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Logo of the VAN
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$87,500,000$83,322,917$1,022,500$4,940,000$4,177,083

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
$10,500,000$10,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RW
UFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$897,500$897,500
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$885,000$885,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
C
RFA - 2

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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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Defence is where they need immediate help if they want to compete. it's only one game but they were the much better team vs. Toronto last night but their defence is atrocious
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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Canucks pass AGAIN/STILL.IMHO.
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:15 a.m.
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Ever since Zegras re signed with the Ducks, Habs fans have shifted their focus to trading for Pettersson lol
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416
Ever since Zegras re signed with the Ducks, Habs fans have shifted their focus to trading for Pettersson lol


It's called recognizing opportunity, and until Petterson is signed the opportunity will be there.
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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It's called recognizing opportunity, and until Petterson is signed the opportunity will be there.


that's fair
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
Defence is where they need immediate help if they want to compete. it's only one game but they were the much better team vs. Toronto last night but their defence is atrocious


yep, but they're still very young. with some more very very young D-men on the way. Some are going to be worth keeping and some are not, I think Hughes (and the rest of the NHL) could use another year of seeing what this young D corps can do before working the phones to improve the D.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.
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It's called recognizing opportunity, and until Petterson is signed the opportunity will be there.


Peety has made it clear he wants to win now.Habs are no closer to winning now than the Canucks are.Why would he choose the Habs over the real contenders.No disrespect to the Habs just dont see a fit.IMHO.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Peety has made it clear he wants to win now.Habs are no closer to winning now than the Canucks are.Why would he choose the Habs over the real contenders.No disrespect to the Habs just dont see a fit.IMHO.


That seems short-sighted. What real contenders are going to afford him today? The habs are working to be a real contender in 2 to 3 years, the ground work is there, if they can sell that idea to petey he becomes a big part of the reason they are contenders.

Todays Contenders that could use Petterson? Boston with no Cap Room and no assets to trade, Carolina has the cap but no assets to trade.

Petterson could always use his leverage to get himself to UFA stats as I mentioned above.

The Habs are closer than you think.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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That seems short-sighted. What real contenders are going to afford him today? The habs are working to be a real contender in 2 to 3 years, the ground work is there, if they can sell that idea to petey he becomes a big part of the reason they are contenders.

Todays Contenders that could use Petterson? Boston with no Cap Room and no assets to trade, Carolina has the cap but no assets to trade.

Petterson could always use his leverage to get himself to UFA stats as I mentioned above.

The Habs are closer than you think.


Your opinion.Short-sighted hmmm.Do you honestly think the Canucks are gonna let the best player they have had in Years just leave without doing whatever is needed to keep him.Its not happening.They will NOT let him leave.They will offer him what he wants.They have built the team around him and Hughes.Its not realistic.Not sure how many times he has Publicly stated He Loves Vancouver these are real facts.Again just My opinion.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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Your opinion.Short-sighted hmmm.Do you honestly think the Canucks are gonna let the best player they have had in Years just leave without doing whatever is needed to keep him.Its not happening.They will NOT let him leave.They will offer him what he wants.They have built the team around him and Hughes.Its not realistic.Not sure how many times he has Publicly stated He Loves Vancouver these are real facts.Again just My opinion.


It's not unheard of for the best player to love the city, express a desire to sign long term and for the Team to do everything they can to convince them to stay, only for them to do something else entirely.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/tkachuk-loves-calgary-open-to-long-term-deal-with-flames/
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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It's not unheard of for the best player to love the city, express a desire to sign long term and for the Team to do everything they can to convince them to stay, only for them to do something else entirely.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/tkachuk-loves-calgary-open-to-long-term-deal-with-flames/


Come on your reaching pretty far.Do you honestly believe all the bs/fairy tales?He wil resign with the Canucks long before long before going to Montreal.Again no disrespect just my opinion.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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Your opinion.Short-sighted hmmm.Do you honestly think the Canucks are gonna let the best player they have had in Years just leave without doing whatever is needed to keep him.Its not happening.They will NOT let him leave.They will offer him what he wants.They have built the team around him and Hughes.Its not realistic.Not sure how many times he has Publicly stated He Loves Vancouver these are real facts.Again just My opinion.


Also the first thing I said up above in the description was the assumption that Petterson could use his leverage to walk away. Is it likely? who knows. Is it possible, without a doubt and he wouldn't be the first to do it. - Tkachuk, Gaudreau, Dubois, Adam Fox (twice - Man, poor Calgary)
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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I dont see reinbacher there, I dont think that Patty would do it if his life depended on it
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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Come on your reaching pretty far.Do you honestly believe all the bs/fairy tales?He wil resign with the Canucks long before long before going to Montreal.Again no disrespect just my opinion.


It's more of a reach to believe there is absolutely no chance of that scenario playing out than it is to consider it could happen.

Also calling someone's ideas and opinions fairy tales and BS does lean to the disrespectful side of a debate.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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I dont see reinbacher there, I dont think that Patty would do it if his life depended on it


Reinbacher isn't there on purpose, so good observation. . and lol these absolutes are funny, If his life actually depended on it, he'd trade him. haha
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Habs are NOT going for Petterson, period.

Anyone heard GM Kent Hughes speak recently.

Habs are in rebuild for at least 2 more years, if not 3.

Sure, Petterson is an elite talent, amazing player.
But he'll cost a gigantic contract.
A 24 year-old elite talent should be signed in 3 years. Not right now, when the Habs will (and hopefully) suck, since they have draft picks capital.

As a Habs fan, I almost hope they lose every game 6-5 (but not in OT/SO) so they land at the bottom of the standings.
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Kris1983
It's more of a reach to believe there is absolutely no chance of that scenario playing out than it is to consider it could happen.

Also calling someone's ideas and opinions fairy tales and BS does lean to the disrespectful side of a debate.


Not calling your opinions bs. Im calling the so called experts in media and on here.I will be very happy to revisit this conversation when Peety resigns in Vancouver.Or if Peety signs in Montreal Please look me up on here.come on lets at least be real alot would have to happen before Peety signs in Montreal or any where else but your right Wayne got traded.l so Anything is possible.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Kris1983
Reinbacher isn't there on purpose, so good observation. . and lol these absolutes are funny, If his life actually depended on it, he'd trade him. haha


My point is that you dont have any pieces of real value, you are banking on a bunch of maybes. Dach does not look to be progressing to be a #1C, I dont think Monaghan will get you a 1st, and there is not enough value to get Petey. If you want him, it will HURT and hurt very very bad
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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My point is that you dont have any pieces of real value, you are banking on a bunch of maybes. Dach does not look to be progressing to be a #1C, I dont think Monaghan will get you a 1st, and there is not enough value to get Petey. If you want him, it will HURT and hurt very very bad


LOL that's point of using assumptions, IF A, B and C happen then this is a possibility. If either of A, B or C don't happen, they it's back to the drawing board.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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My point is that you dont have any pieces of real value, you are banking on a bunch of maybes. Dach does not look to be progressing to be a #1C, I dont think Monaghan will get you a 1st, and there is not enough value to get Petey. If you want him, it will HURT and hurt very very bad


Also Kirby Dach (assumed progressing to 1C) and two first round picks, while taking away the Conor Garland contract without retention??? no value?? get out of here.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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LOL that's point of using assumptions, IF A, B and C happen then this is a possibility. If either of A, B or C don't happen, they it's back to the drawing board.


But there is no point in assuming if the odds of any of these things happening, let alone all of them happening is slim to none. What if the Canucks are at .750, Petey is on trace for 130 points at the TDL and he has just signed a sweetheart deal for 8y10m. It goes two ways
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Habs are NOT going for Petterson, period.

Anyone heard GM Kent Hughes speak recently.

Habs are in rebuild for at least 2 more years, if not 3.

Sure, Petterson is an elite talent, amazing player.
But he'll cost a gigantic contract.
A 24 year-old elite talent should be signed in 3 years. Not right now, when the Habs will (and hopefully) suck, since they have draft picks capital.

As a Habs fan, I almost hope they lose every game 6-5 (but not in OT/SO) so they land at the bottom of the standings.


Hughes would be fired in an instant if he didn't look into an available Petterson. They were in on Dubois this year and that was a way worse fit for Montreal than Petterson would be.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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Also Kirby Dach (assumed progressing to 1C) and two first round picks, while taking away the Conor Garland contract without retention??? no value?? get out of here.


Garland deal is paid market value, Dach is worth a little more than a 1st (as seen as what was paid) then the other 1sts would be late. You are trying to get an MVP calibre, Selke candidate #1 C. There is nothing that he cant do, he shoots, he is a playmaker, he kills penalties, he blocks shots and throws crushing hits. Cody Ceci still hasn’t shaken off the hit. If you want him, quantity is a component, but the value comes from the quality
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Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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But there is no point in assuming if the odds of any of these things happening, let alone all of them happening is slim to none. What if the Canucks are at .750, Petey is on trace for 130 points at the TDL and he has just signed a sweetheart deal for 8y10m. It goes two ways


yes exactly, that was my first assumption stated above. "Vancouver is out of the hunt"

it's armchair GM it's all make believe, these are all scenarios that are possible.
Oct. 12, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.
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Quoting: Ross_Johnston
Defence is where they need immediate help if they want to compete. it's only one game but they were the much better team vs. Toronto last night but their defence is atrocious


Getting Savard off that top pairing would be a step in the right direction.
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