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Created by: jruf
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 14, 2023
Published: Nov. 15, 2023
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Description
everybody is going to hate this
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,750,000
Trades
1.
STL
  1. Bouchard, Evan
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Binnington, Jordan
  2. Scandella, Marco ($1,600,000 retained)
  3. 2025 6th round pick (STL)
  4. 2026 7th round pick (STL)
2.
STL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (SEA)
  2. 2024 6th round pick (SEA)
3.
STL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Faulk, Justin
Additional Details:
i dont know what team to send him to but the value is what i want
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2024
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2025
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2026
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23$83,500,000$76,248,929$20,000$400,000$7,251,071
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
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UFA - 2
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
C, RW
UFA - 8
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 5
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$8,125,000$8,125,000
RW
UFA - 8
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
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UFA - 3
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$816,667$816,667
C
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
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$775,000$775,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 15, 2023 at 11:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
Parayko is 30 Bouchard is 24

Parayko is on one the worst contracts in the league Bouchard can be resigned at 26 to a way better deal and will be fully developed by then


Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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Quoting: AC14
Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft


Age has everything to do with value what r u talking about haha I lost brain cells reading that comment
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: AC14
Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft

Parayko is gonna be getting 6.5 at 38 it’s a brutal contract and Bouchard holds way more value because he is younger lmao this comment is a big L
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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Quoting: AC14
Well Tyler Tucker is also only 23. He isn't much of a point producer but he's 23 and Bouchard is 24 so he's more valuable. Do you see where the logic is convoluted? Age rarely has nothing to do with value. Years of control of comparable players sure. But Bouchard being 24 doesn't mean he's all of a sudden going to turn a corner and be someone who can be trusted in his own zone. He wasn't that in Juniors and he isn't that now.

Why is Parayko one of the worst contracts in the league? I find it hard to even consider putting Parayko up there when you can look internally at Nurse who is making 3m more per year. Hell the Oilers have at least 3 contracts I'd firmly rather have Paraykos than. Can probably count one more in regards to Bouchard because of how much of a mess he is defensively.

There are no guarantees that players will develop from year to year. Yeah there's a possibility for sure but there are very few organizations where I think it's close to a guarantee a guy will develop year to year and those are generally the teams you see continually in the playoffs in competition, not doing complete turnovers every 10-15 years to try and get a franchise player through the draft


Why does Conor Bedard hold more value than a player like Austin matthews because he is significantly younger kinda like Bouchard compared to parayko lmao
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
Ur pretty delusional when it comes to the value of Parayko and binnington and yes Bouchard holds a lot more value then parayko and is a lot younger and still has time to improve his game on the defensive end and binnington imo is just an avg goalie on an ok contract not great but not terrible and parayko contract is absolutely horrendous with that term left


I feel a least a first for Parayko is fair
I also feel that binner should at least get a decent return, he’s been very good this year and most of his career
Maybe not a first but close to it at least
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Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Let's see him keep it up. When he is on he is a good goalie, then he becomes the hulk and can't save a beach ball


Dude. Just admit you have no idea what you're on about. Good grief.
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: xercuses
I feel a least a first for Parayko is fair
I also feel that binner should at least get a decent return, he’s been very good this year and most of his career
Maybe not a first but close to it at least

100% parayko is worth a first maybe a prospect aswell
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Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
Age has everything to do with value what r u talking about haha I lost brain cells reading that comment


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Why does Conor Bedard hold more value than a player like Austin matthews because he is significantly younger kinda like Bouchard compared to parayko lmao


Bedard does not hold more value than Matthews 💀💀😭😭
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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The fact you think parayko contract is a good contract is pretty laughable to me

Parayko is on one the worst contracts in the league


Bruh. You clearly have not the foggiest clue what you're on about. Stop pretending already.
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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Dude. Just admit you have no idea what you're on about. Good grief.


Ow so he's been consistent since singing that contract? Hasn't been a problem at all? Lol
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.
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Quoting: xercuses
Bedard does not hold more value than Matthews 💀💀😭😭


Bedard easily holds more value than matthews Hahha matthews is gonna be massively overpaid next year.

hawks get a guaranteed 7 more years of Bedard and will probably get him at better cap hit then 13 million
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:35 p.m.
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Bruh. You clearly have not the foggiest clue what you're on about. Stop pretending already.

You would be delusional to think otherwise Hahha parayko contract is horrendous give ur head a shake
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Ow so he's been consistent since singing that contract? Hasn't been a problem at all? Lol


DId I say that? But you guys never watch the Blues play and talk like experts when you really have no idea.

And FYI Binnington has had one terrible performance season, and that was 21-22... and even then, he ended it hot and was the best goalie going in the playoffs when he got run over by Kadri.
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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You would be delusional to think otherwise Hahha parayko contract is horrendous give ur head a shake


Again: You have zero clue what you're on about. None. You don't watch the guy play, you just repeat the popular nonsense. It's beyond obvious.
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Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
Bedard easily holds more value than matthews Hahha matthews is gonna be massively overpaid next year.

hawks get a guaranteed 7 more years of Bedard and will probably get him at better cap hit then 13 million


One is one of the best in the league
The other hasn’t even played 25 games yet
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Again: You have zero clue what you're on about. None. You don't watch the guy play, you just repeat the popular nonsense. It's beyond obvious.


bro this oiler dude took this acgm hella serious lol
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Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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Again: You have zero clue what you're on about. None. You don't watch the guy play, you just repeat the popular nonsense. It's beyond obvious.

Numbers don’t lie Hahha and I know he’s a shutdown defensemen with a little bit of offensive game I know exactly what I’m talking about he’s gonna be getting 6.5M at 38 and that’s absolutely horrendous which makes his contract terrible because of the term
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: xercuses
One is one of the best in the league
The other hasn’t even played 25 games yet


Do you know who Conor Bedard is ?
Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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bro this oiler dude took this acgm hella serious lol


Little bit to serious haha
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Nov. 15, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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Little bit to serious haha


always entertaining watching mokumboi defend his land
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Nov. 15, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Why does Conor Bedard hold more value than a player like Austin matthews because he is significantly younger kinda like Bouchard compared to parayko lmao


You’re comparing franchise centers on one side. Bedard possibly does due to his years of team control. Not because he’s 18. Years of team control bring AAVs down due to arb seasons.

Parayko and Bouchard are not apples to apples. One is a shutdown d man who has average offensive skills. One is a high end offensive d man who has size but virtually no defensive skills.

Age isn’t a value. It’s relative to a teams window and it’s mainly about what player x provides at cap hit x.
Nov. 15, 2023 at 1:06 p.m.
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Do you know who Conor Bedard is ?


Yes but lets be serious here, Whiles hes an Amazing prospect and will have more value than matthews very quickly
He still has less than 25 games.
Thats like saying after 2 games in 2015 that Mcdavid had more value than crosby
Nov. 15, 2023 at 1:15 p.m.
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Quoting: AC14
You’re comparing franchise centers on one side. Bedard possibly does due to his years of team control. Not because he’s 18. Years of team control bring AAVs down due to arb seasons.

Parayko and Bouchard are not apples to apples. One is a shutdown d man who has average offensive skills. One is a high end offensive d man who has size but virtually no defensive skills.

Age isn’t a value. It’s relative to a teams window and it’s mainly about what player x provides at cap hit x.


Who’s better crosby or Stuzle I would say crosby but Stuzle holds more value cause he’s significantly younger so yes age does matter when it comes to value
Nov. 15, 2023 at 1:17 p.m.
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Yes but lets be serious here, Whiles hes an Amazing prospect and will have more value than matthews very quickly
He still has less than 25 games.
Thats like saying after 2 games in 2015 that Mcdavid had more value than crosby


Bedard has so far lived up to the hype he easily holds more value then matthews in fact he would probably put up more points than matthews if he played on the leafs with players like nylander and marner who compliment matthews game
Nov. 15, 2023 at 1:20 p.m.
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Numbers don’t lie Hahha and I know he’s a shutdown defensemen with a little bit of offensive game I know exactly what I’m talking about he’s gonna be getting 6.5M at 38 and that’s absolutely horrendous which makes his contract terrible because of the term


Oh, you're a fortune teller? Is that you Ms. Cleo? tears of joy

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