Win win trade but really unlikely part of FLA

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

yeah, so trotz should trade our historically much much better goalie who’s younger on a better contract for the 35 year old having a flukey resurgence stretch😭😭😭

You’re ignoring the fact that Lundell has 5x the amount of value as Tomasino

Jan. 2 at 4:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Db1899

Panthers would never make this trade . Zito is one of the smartest GMs in the league

right. that’s why he gave bob a similar contract you’re whining that saros is going to get that’s just now looking to pay out randomly at 35. we’ll keep our guy.

Jan. 2 at 4:29 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

right. that’s why he gave bob a similar contract you’re whining that saros is going to get that’s just now looking to pay out randomly at 35. we’ll keep our guy.

Zito never gave Bob the contract genius 😭

Jan. 2 at 4:30 p.m.

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Quoting: Db1899

You’re ignoring the fact that Lundell has 5x the amount of value as Tomasino

cool. they can keep him. he doesn’t cover the cost to dump bob. if they want saros on top of it keep adding!

Jan. 2 at 4:31 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

Lundell doesn’t even cover dumping the Bob contract

Quoting: Db1899

Panthers would never make this trade . Zito is one of the smartest GMs in the league

Jan. 2 at 4:33 p.m.

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@badoob thoughts?

Jan. 2 at 4:33 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

Lundell will be by far the best player in the deal within the next 2 years. Zito wouldn’t make this trade even if NSH added picks

Jan. 2 at 4:35 p.m.

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Quoting: Db1899

Lundell will be by far the best player in the deal within the next 2 years. Zito wouldn’t make this trade even if NSH added picks

cool. he doesn’t cover the cost to dump that absolutely horrid contract, even if bobs had a random good stint at 35. doesn’t change how bad he’s been for years

Jan. 2 at 4:37 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

badoob thoughts?

Bob has been playing well but his age and contract are very risky. Not worth it. Lundell isn’t anything special to entice Nashville to make the move.

Jan. 2 at 4:37 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

cool. he doesn’t cover the cost to dump that absolutely horrid contract, even if bobs had a random good stint at 35. doesn’t change how bad he’s been for years

Bob has a 1 year and half left on his contract and he’s playing well. Panthers have a great cap situation, this isn’t even a thought for them.

Nashville has a lot of bad contracts , trotz wouldn’t hesitate to add one more

Jan. 2 at 4:38 p.m.

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Quoting: badoob

Bob has been playing well but his age and contract are very risky. Not worth it. Lundell isn’t anything special to entice Nashville to make the move.

Lundell would be your best young player by a mile with the Highest upside. Nashville doesn’t have a top 6 center in the system

Jan. 2 at 4:41 p.m.

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Quoting: Db1899

Lundell would be your best young player by a mile with the Highest upside. Nashville doesn’t have a top 6 center in the system

I’m not a Nashville fan, but I’d disagree. Lundell hasn’t lived up to the 1C allegations. He’s looking more like a lower end 2C. Trotting towards a 30pt pace. Trotz has expressed his desire to keep Saros. It is true that Bobrovsky has been playing great this season as well as a historical playoff run, thats makes it harder for him to have again. He carrie’s much more risk with his age and past season history. I would also prefer Saros and Tomasino, as I think most people on here would too.

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Jan. 2 at 4:44 p.m.

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Quoting: Db1899

Lundell would be your best young player by a mile with the Highest upside. Nashville doesn’t have a top 6 center in the system

Quoting: Db1899

Lundell would be your best young player by a mile with the Highest upside. Nashville doesn’t have a top 6 center in the system

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bout to post b2b 30 point seasons, must be a 1C💀

Jan. 2 at 4:44 p.m.

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Quoting: badoob

At worst Lundell will be a 60 pt 2C who plays in all situations. He played at a 55 pt pace as a 20 YO, players who do put up those numbers at his age almost always go on to be 60+ pt players.

What you don’t get is that 1 1/2 years of Bob at 10 mill per is a lot less risky than 28 YO saros 1 1/2 years at 5 mill + 8 years at 8.5 mill

Jan. 2 at 4:46 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

bout to post b2b 30 point seasons, must be a 1C💀

Let’s ignore that he put up a 55 pt pace as a 20 YO and had one of the best 19 YO liiga seasons ever. Preds dont have a young player of his caliber in the system

Jan. 2 at 4:46 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

cool. he doesn’t cover the cost to dump that absolutely horrid contract, even if bobs had a random good stint at 35. doesn’t change how bad he’s been for years

Over the last 15 years, here’s a list of goalies to play at a top 15 level while maintaining a starters workload in their age 35, 36, and 37 seasons:

That’s the list. It didn’t happen.

The best was Miller from 15-18 but he was probably only the 15th or 16th best goalie in that time frame

Bob to even be worth his contract would have to be a top 3 goalie over the next 3 seasons.

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Jan. 2 at 4:48 p.m.

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Quoting: Db1899

At worst Lundell will be a 60 pt 2C who plays in all situations. He played at a 55 pt pace as a 20 YO, players who do put up those numbers at his age almost always go on to be 60+ pt players.

He played at a 55 point pace when? He’s pacing 30 this season. He hasn’t been all that great. He’s not the guy you think he is.

Quoting: Db1899

What you don’t get is that 1 1/2 years of Bob at 10 mill per is a lot less risky than 28 YO saros 1 1/2 years at 5 mill + 8 years at 8.5 mill

I think you’re the only one on this entire site that thinks that. Saros has been a top goalie in the league for years. He’s been tasked with dragging Nashville to the playoffs (or close to it) yearly. It isn’t really his fault for the rough start. The price of 8 is what it costs for a goalie who’s been top of the board for years. And with Saros, it will be no different.

Jan. 2 at 4:50 p.m.

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Bob is incredibly risky. Sorry it’s not even risky. It’s a guaranteed disaster.

Over the last 15 years not a single goalie from age 35-37 (bobs age over the rest of his contract) has come even close to being top 10, let alone worth the biggest goalie contract in hockey like Bob has.

There is an approximately 0% chance he’s worth his contract

Best case scenario Bob plays at an elite level, and still is a negative value asset bc of his contract. (Actually the best case scenario is he gets LTIRetired but I digress

The more likely scenario is he falls off into a quality backup role and is worth about 3-4 mill on a 10 mill deal.

Or he could fall off entirely like every goalie does at some point and be a completely waste of 30 million dollars

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Jan. 2 at 4:50 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

lmfao. and this guy thinks that saros is riskier. crazy.

Jan. 2 at 4:51 p.m.

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Quoting: PhilsWeiner

lmfao. and this guy thinks that saros is riskier. crazy.

Saros risk is he randomly falls off at 29. Not something we haven’t seen before, but very unlikely. Even then you only lose about 6 mill in value and you move on.

Bobs risk is a high likelihood of age catching up and him becoming a 30 million dollar backup.

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Jan. 2 at 4:52 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

bob has been mediocre for years, with a random splurge at 35 he wont replicate. he will fall back to earth by the end of the season

Jan. 4 at 10:05 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

You do realize that bob is a top 10 goalie in the league this season ? Where are you getting 30 mill from? Bobs cap it is 10 mill and he has 1 1/2 left on his deal.

What don’t you understand lol. 9 years of a Saros is a lot more risky than 1 1/2 years of bob no matter what you think. It doesn’t matter if bob was making 15 mill.

Jan. 4 at 10:06 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

It’s actually very likely saros falls off. A majority of goaltenders regress in their late 20s.

Saros has given up 5 goals to the flames tonight. Let me know when he returns to form as an elite goalie 😂

Jan. 4 at 10:06 p.m.

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lmfao. and this guy thinks that saros is riskier. crazy.

Saros has given up 5 goals to the flames tonight. He’s been brutal this season

Jan. 4 at 10:10 p.m.

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