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Prediction when Jo and Pinto Return

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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 3, 2024
Published: Jan. 4, 2024
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Jan. 4 at 10:12 a.m.
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Kubalik is gone too and probably a Dman
Jan. 4 at 12:09 p.m.
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A first for a 32 year old rental that's barely on a 20 goal pace? LOL. Easy pass.
Jan. 4 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: csick
Kubalik is gone too and probably a Dman


Agreed Kubalik will move at some point.

I predict Tank goes first to clear cap as his stock will not get any higher than it is currently. It would be smart to move him soon for the best price available.

Dman; other than Brannstrom, not sure who else they can move...
Jan. 4 at 2:01 p.m.
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A first for a 32 year old rental that's barely on a 20 goal pace? LOL. Easy pass.


Maybe. The main point is that he will be first domino to fall I expect.
Jan. 4 at 2:07 p.m.
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A first for a 32 year old rental that's barely on a 20 goal pace? LOL. Easy pass.


He’s on 63 pt pace posting solid defensive numbers okay bro
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Jan. 4 at 3:15 p.m.
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He’s on 63 pt pace posting solid defensive numbers okay bro


He has 8 goals and doesn't drive play. I don't know where you saw "solid defensive numbers" for him, but at 5v5 his SF%, xG%, SCF%, HDCF%, and HDGF% are all under 50%, so that's just not true. OK bro?

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20232024&thruseason=20232024&playerid=8475765&sit=5v5&stype=2
Jan. 4 at 3:18 p.m.
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He has 8 goals and doesn't drive play. I don't know where you saw "solid defensive numbers" for him, but at 5v5 his SF%, xG%, SCF%, HDCF%, and HDGF% are all under 50%, so that's just not true. OK bro?

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20232024&thruseason=20232024&playerid=8475765&sit=5v5&stype=2


He’s #1 in GA/60 on the Sens . And 4th in xGF% among forwards
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Jan. 4 at 3:25 p.m.
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He has 8 goals and doesn't drive play. I don't know where you saw "solid defensive numbers" for him, but at 5v5 his SF%, xG%, SCF%, HDCF%, and HDGF% are all under 50%, so that's just not true. OK bro?

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20232024&thruseason=20232024&playerid=8475765&sit=5v5&stype=2

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Jan. 4 at 3:34 p.m.
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He’s #1 in GA/60 on the Sens . And 4th in xGF% among forwards


First of all, he's 11th not 4th in xGF%. Even if you take out the guys who have played less than 10 games he's still only 9th. Second of all, who cares what his numbers are relative to the other forwards on the Sens? Relative to the rest of the league his numbers aren't good.
Jan. 4 at 3:44 p.m.
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First of all, he's 11th not 4th in xGF%. Even if you take out the guys who have played less than 10 games he's still only 9th. Second of all, who cares what his numbers are relative to the other forwards on the Sens? Relative to the rest of the league his numbers aren't good.


When he got traded from st Louis last year he was on a 62.57pt pace / 82 games and a -18.

This year he’s on a 63.48pts/82 games and a +9 which leads the Sens pretty sure . He’s literally on the same goal pace as his NY and STL tenures last year. He’s outpacing his NY tenure by 3pts.

If anything hes been a 20-22 goal 60-65pt winger the last 2 years and thats exactly what he is.

He got traded for a late 1st last year. I don’t see why that wouldn’t change as long as Ottawa retains and maybe even involves a 3rd team to double retain
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Jan. 5 at 9:23 a.m.
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Quoting: csick
When he got traded from st Louis last year he was on a 62.57pt pace / 82 games and a -18.

This year he’s on a 63.48pts/82 games and a +9 which leads the Sens pretty sure . He’s literally on the same goal pace as his NY and STL tenures last year. He’s outpacing his NY tenure by 3pts.

If anything hes been a 20-22 goal 60-65pt winger the last 2 years and thats exactly what he is.

He got traded for a late 1st last year. I don’t see why that wouldn’t change as long as Ottawa retains and maybe even involves a 3rd team to double retain


If your point is that NHL GM's are dumb and will trade a 1st for a guy who's in decline just because he was traded for a 1st last year, even though he was a disappointment after that trade, then I agree.
 
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