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Forum: Armchair-GM23 minutes ago

Thread: Why Brodie could be traded

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Herb_Brooks</b></div><div>no he didnt and ben chiarot got more than a first, tj brodie is worth a first</div></div>

He only played 58 games. And also, he's not good.

Forum: Armchair-GM36 minutes ago

Thread: Why Brodie could be traded

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Babatunde</b></div><div>He easily is</div></div>
He's going into his age 33 season and missed 30 games with injury last year, and even if he was fully healthy still wouldn't be worth a 1st.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:01 p.m.

Thread: Isles Realistic 23-24

This is super realistic, except for Homstrom as LW1, paying a 2nd to dump a contract that is almost fully buryable, and the fact that you have no cap space for 13/14F & 7D.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 12:58 p.m.

Thread: Quinn Hughes

LOL that's more than Quebec got for Lindros.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 12:57 p.m.

Thread: Isles

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>I don’t have an issue with this roster with the sole exception of signing Donskoi who didn’t play a single game last year.</div></div>

And he was bad the year before when he did play.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:52 a.m.

Thread: NYI 23-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Lane Lambert scratched Bailey at home for game 1,000. I think you are overestimating his loyalty to that group.</div></div>

At no point were any of Cizikas/Martin/Clutterbuck healthy scratched last year. However, by the fancy stats, the fourth line was more effective with Fasching when Clutterbuck was injured (albeit with fewer defensive zone starts), so it would not be the worst thing in the world for Clutterbuck to sit. Again though, the "best fourth line in hockey" nonsense still seems to carry a lot of weight in the Isles org.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:27 a.m.

Thread: NYI 23-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Someone is always hurt anyway. Let’s wait and see.</div></div>

Yeah, there's a non-zero chance that Clutterbuck winds up needing another surgery or something and isn't ready to start the season. But if healthy there's no doubt in my mind that he's in the lineup at RW4 over Fasching on opening night.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:24 a.m.

Thread: 3 way Panarin stays in NY

The Islanders and Rangers have made three trades with each other since the Isles joined the league (and only one since 1972).

1972 - 7th & 8th round picks to the Isles for expansion draft considerations
1972 - 40-year-old Ron Stewart to the Isles for cash
2010 - 6th round pick to the Isles for Jyri Niemi who wound up never playing in the NHL

The chances of a trade like you've proposed between these two teams happening is less than zero.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 11:20 a.m.

Thread: NYI 23-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Fasching was way better than both guys last year, and both the fans and coaching staff love him. He’s not starting as a scratch imo.</div></div>

If healthy, there's no way they break up the Cizikas-Martin-Clutterbuck line to start the season. Fasching will likely play quite a bit due to the inevitable injuries, but unless something goes terribly wrong this offseason and he's the top option at RW3, I'd be shocked if he's in the opening night lineup.

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 8:51 a.m.

Thread: NYI 23-24

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Too long and too much money for Scott Mayfield. Samuel Bolduc isn’t waiver exempt and has to be rostered. Wahlstrom isn’t getting 2.5 million after last season. Magnus Hellberg isn’t an NHL caliber backup. Fasching isn’t being healthy scratched for Cal Clutterbuck or Matt Martin.</div></div>

Mayfield will probably get more money than that (hopefully not from the Isles though).

It's wishful thinking to believe that Fasching would not be a scratch if Martin and Clutterbuck are healthy (which, at least in CC's place, is a big if).

Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 8:41 a.m.

Thread: VGK 2324

In a vacuum, I wouldn't hate the Isles picking up Martinez for one year, but his cap hit would prevent them from making improvements elsewhere.

Also, zero chance he brings back a 2nd. Maybe a 5th, at most.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 8:19 a.m.

Thread: HABS wait a year for Dubois

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Savage27</b></div><div>No thank you on those D men. Barron will be much better than holl. And Clifton will get twice that</div></div>

You think a 5'11" defenseman that's never scored more than 23 points in a season is going to get an AAV of $5MM+?!? That would be insane. I think $2.75MM might be on the high side for him.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 25 at 8:22 a.m.

Thread: Next year with Kane and Bert

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Too long and too much money for Kane and Bertuzzi. Overpay to dump Bailey. Martin and Clutterbuck probably have value on the trade market to teams that lack grit and leadership. Lots of teams got bounced in round one or two cause of how soft they were.</div></div>

The Kane contract is less than what Giroux got from Ottawa last year, so there's actually an argument that what's proposed here is too low.

Bert is making $4.75MM now, and will likely get a raise, so again, there's actually an argument that what's proposed here is too low.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24 at 2:28 p.m.

Thread: big change

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CF18GM</b></div><div>Connor's not on the trade block, has multiple years left and is a top scorer in WPG. Its gonna take a lot more to convince the team to move him. Probably looking at one of Dufour or Dobson and a couple 1sts.</div></div>

I'd do Dufour and their next two firsts for Conner in a heartbeat.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24 at 2:27 p.m.

Thread: big change

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Oh god is that a visual glitch or did my message post four times</div></div>

IDK, but can you tell us whether the Devils are interested?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24 at 9:19 a.m.

Thread: i cant fix them

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marcheesy</b></div><div>Seravalli projected a 4.1M x 4 for Engvall. Also, retaining on Bailey just doesn’t make much sense imo.</div></div>

It does if it drops the cost to dump him from a 2nd to a 4th or 5th, and saves them cap space over a buyout both this year and next.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 24 at 8:52 a.m.

Thread: Cup Dump City

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marcheesy</b></div><div>I don't think Garland is a negative asset tbh</div></div>

An undersized, sub-20 goal wing making $5MM for three more years? I could see them having to pay to offload that.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 22 at 11:12 a.m.

Thread: never happen

LOL, that trade is almost as much as Quebec got for Lindros.

Seriously though, when was the last time any team gave up more than four assets for a single player? The closest I can find somewhat recently is Karlsson to SJ where Ottawa got three high picks, a good prospect, and a couple of roster filler players—every other trade with more than four assets included at least one cap dump to offset salaries.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19 at 9:28 a.m.

Thread: Could you imagine the headlines and rivalry

The Islanders and Rangers have made three trades with each other since the Isles joined the league (and only one since 1972).

7th & 8th round picks to the Isles for expansion draft considerations in 1972.
40 year old Ron Stewart to the Isles for cash in 1972.
6th round pick to the Isles for Jyri Niemi who wound up never playing in the NHL in 2010.

The chances of a trade like you've proposed between these two teams happening is less than zero.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 19 at 9:20 a.m.

Thread: Tor23-24BarzalEK65

Pretty sure Barzal and Tavares hate each other, so having them on the same line would be hilarious.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 1:05 p.m.

Thread: bye bye Bergy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Isles don’t have interest in Hall, but let Lou know when you want to sell on DeBrusk lol.</div></div>

Eh. If they're willing to retain some salary I'd be happy to take him off their hands. I'd rather have Hall for two years than do something stupid like give Tarasenko seven years.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 1:02 p.m.

Thread: Big Shake

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jackdrew14</b></div><div>Isles decline</div></div>

I don't think "decline" is a strong enough word to describe the Isles' response to this proposal.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 1:01 p.m.

Thread: Big Shake Up In The 6ix

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tennisman142</b></div><div>I don't see how the Isles consider that deal at all. Dobson is way to important to them</div></div>

He's certainly not worth the upgrade from Barzal to Marner at RW1, especially when you consider there's no way Marner continues to put up 90+ point seasons in the Isles' defense-first system.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 12:00 p.m.

Thread: One could dream

"2023 2nd becomes 2025 1st if the Islanders make it to the ECF in the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs."

The Coyotes would have already used 2023 2nd before the 2024 playoffs. How exactly are they going to retroactively upgrade that to a 1st?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 18 at 11:56 a.m.

Thread: A real goalie

You'd probably have to retain some salary to get a 2nd for Olofsson.

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