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Why No More Moves this Offseason

Created by: Jded
Team: 2018-19 Anaheim Ducks
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 8, 2017
Published: Jul. 8, 2017
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As much as I'd love to see an additional forward come in, unless it's on a 1 year contract via free agency, I don't think it's worth it.
Right now the ducks have a really solid D, and losing a mobile top 4 piece like Vatanen in a trade would hurt a lot. On top of that, while a scoring LW or 3rd C would be great this season, Max Jones and Sam Steel both look like they'll be ready to step into the NHL in 2018-2019 and be legitimate threats. If we sign or trade for someone to fill those LW or 3rd C roles beyond the 17/18 season, there won't be an opening for them to crack the lineup even despite a full 2 seasons of development after being 1st round picks.
These guys, along with Raks, Ritchie, and Silf are likely the next gen of Ducks core forwards as Getz, Perry, and Kesler age and take more minor roles. Everyone talks about the Ducks window closing as our "stars" age beyond their prime, but with the youth on the back end, in net, and this group of young forwards, I could see the Ducks window remaining open for many years to come as long as the young guns are given the opportunity
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$2,250,000
5$4,150,000
5$3,500,000
2$1,500,000
2$900,000
2$950,000
2$750,000
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$77,000,000$69,099,249$0$157,500$7,900,751
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$2,463,139$2,463,139
RW, LW
UFA - 4
$8,250,000$8,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
$3,150,000$3,150,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$2,250,000$2,250,000
LW
UFA - 3
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333
LW, RW
RFA - 3
$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 3
$8,625,000$8,625,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
$900,000$900,000
LW
UFA - 1
$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$157,500$158K)
C
RFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
UFA - 3
$950,000$950,000
C
UFA - 1
$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 8
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
UFA - 4
$2,300,000$2,300,000
G
UFA - 1
$2,602,778$2,602,778
LD
UFA - 4
$2,437,500$2,437,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LD
UFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
$894,166$894,166
LD
UFA - 2
$900,000$900,000
RD
UFA - 1
$794,167$794,167
LD
UFA - 1

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Jul. 8, 2017 at 11:47 a.m.
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Yup. Still going to be a squeeze signing the next-gen while Getz/Perry/Kesler are on the books.

The worry is always that their bodies don't hold up at the end of their contracts, but those salary cap hits look manageable compared to the ones signed since Toews + Kane broke the 8 digit barrier.
I think everyone is still learning about the cap. The last few years the cap only went up because players agreed, because revenue hasn't climbed and any cap-increase is lost to escrow clawbacks.
There would be chaos if the salary cap were still $69 million as in 2014-15, those $8.6 million cap hits would be like $9.3 million cap hits today. Eventually all the players who make less than $3 million, frequently on short contracts, will stop voting to approve the increases because the cap increase is taking away more money through escrow than their salaries are increasing. Then we'll all have to really learn about the salary cap and the value of a below-market price signing.
Jul. 8, 2017 at 2:42 p.m.
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Although, this is why I think Vatanen may move. It is a little bit of a squeeze under the cap and Larsson is probably ready for an NHL role this year and defiantly should be the following season. It wouldn't suprise me if Vatanen was moved for players on ELC and/or picks, since the owners typically like to be a few million under the cap.
Jul. 8, 2017 at 6:07 p.m.
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Yup. Still going to be a squeeze signing the next-gen while Getz/Perry/Kesler are on the books.

The worry is always that their bodies don't hold up at the end of their contracts, but those salary cap hits look manageable compared to the ones signed since Toews + Kane broke the 8 digit barrier.
I think everyone is still learning about the cap. The last few years the cap only went up because players agreed, because revenue hasn't climbed and any cap-increase is lost to escrow clawbacks.
There would be chaos if the salary cap were still $69 million as in 2014-15, those $8.6 million cap hits would be like $9.3 million cap hits today. Eventually all the players who make less than $3 million, frequently on short contracts, will stop voting to approve the increases because the cap increase is taking away more money through escrow than their salaries are increasing. Then we'll all have to really learn about the salary cap and the value of a below-market price signing.


Very true and I totally agree regarding Getz/Perry/Kesler and how they'll perform in their last few years, and the difficulty allocating cap to other players, however that problem is likely around 3 years away, so it's not one I would worry about immediately addressing.

Regarding the cap as a whole and escrow, I believe they aren't allowed to make any changes until like 2019, and even then that's only if the NHLPA or owners back out. Otherwise it's still going to remain as-is until 2022.
Jul. 10, 2017 at 4:14 a.m.
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I generally agree with the reasoning. I do think adding a high end forward could push us forward for the next couple years. It is one of the reasons I really want Duchene. If we consider that this deal is likely Vats last as a Duck no matter what because of guys like Montour/Manson then moving him for a shorter term asset like Duchene makes sense. You're not losing a whole lot of "asset control" but it also gives Steel a full year in the AHL with injury call ups. The D is obviously weaker without Vats but we has fans were prepared for that. We have 3 young Vets in Fowler, Lindy, Manson, 2 older guys in Bieksa and Holzer leaving room for 2 rookie D with Montour(who we expect in the lineup anyway) and either Larsson(most likely) or Megna. Still leaving guys like Megna, Pettersson, and Welinski as depth call ups from the A. I deal like this also opens future money as we would expect to lose Duchenes 6 mill ehoch can be rotated into new deals for deserving young players.

So in summation you create a definitive top 9 that every team will have issues matching with while also maintaining legit D depth. You could even sign a guy like Beauch to a cheap deal if you're worried about the rookies.
 
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