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Marner the Hab V2

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 16, 2024
Published: Jan. 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Posted a thread earlier today... After much back and forth, this is the sign and trade we agreed is fair for Marner to become a Hab. What do you all think?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
2$1,400,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Marner, Mitchell
Additional Details:
Signs an extension of 8 x 11M-12M
Habs get Marner ages 27-36
TOR
  1. Mesar, Filip
  2. Struble, Jayden
  3. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
  4. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
Additional Details:
2024 pick is 8OA
2.
MTL
ANA
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Armia, Joel
  3. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  4. Ylönen, Jesse [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Anywhere for anything. Hopefully the return for Allen, Ylonen, & Kovacevic pays to dump Armia
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$76,557,583$1,022,500$3,920,000$10,942,417
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
RFA
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
G
UFA - 3
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$875,000$875,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 16 at 7:38 p.m.
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Not in a million years
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Jan. 16 at 8:05 p.m.
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Just don't think Marner is a good fit for Montreal. And before I hear "wHO DoSeN'T WaNt A HuNDrED PoINt PlAYEr?" I mean that he costs too much from a rebuilding teams perspective (The offer above is still a little short imo), he's not a playoff performer he just doesn't have that grit, and at 8th Overall Montreal can get a really good core piece for the future.
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Jan. 16 at 8:52 p.m.
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If the Leafs entertain the idea of trading Marner they will want a top Right handed defenseman that will help them right away. Leafs are looking to maximize their opportunity with this core. Make no sense for them to get picks that will help them in 2-3-4 years.
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Jan. 16 at 8:54 p.m.
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Team situations aside, that's a pretty good offer.

I'm curious, I've always been a fan of Struble and with Montreal's absolute glut of young LD's (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Hutson, Struble, Norlinder), do you think there could be a potential prospect swap there?

I know such a move is unlikely between divisional rivals, but it's all hypothetical.
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Jan. 16 at 8:56 p.m.
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Mitch Marner laugh and passes, He's not leaving Toronto for that dump.
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Jan. 17 at 4:44 a.m.
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Quoting: Lafleur10
Just don't think Marner is a good fit for Montreal. And before I hear "wHO DoSeN'T WaNt A HuNDrED PoINt PlAYEr?" I mean that he costs too much from a rebuilding teams perspective (The offer above is still a little short imo), he's not a playoff performer he just doesn't have that grit, and at 8th Overall Montreal can get a really good core piece for the future.


Where did the "he's not a playoff performer" narrative come from? The Leafs are bad in the playoffs, true, but Marner has put up good points his last few playoffs:

14 points in 11 games
8 points in 7 games

Seems like a superstar delivering in the playoffs to me...
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Jan. 17 at 4:48 a.m.
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If the Leafs entertain the idea of trading Marner they will want a top Right handed defenseman that will help them right away. Leafs are looking to maximize their opportunity with this core. Make no sense for them to get picks that will help them in 2-3-4 years.


I had originally offered Barron in place of the Calgary pick, but was asked to swap it by a Leafs fan. Do you think swapping the Calgary pick for Barron helps to get it done?
Jan. 17 at 4:52 a.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
Team situations aside, that's a pretty good offer.

I'm curious, I've always been a fan of Struble and with Montreal's absolute glut of young LD's (Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Hutson, Struble, Norlinder), do you think there could be a potential prospect swap there?

I know such a move is unlikely between divisional rivals, but it's all hypothetical.


IMO the Habs have to trade a few LD or start losing them for nothing.

I doubt they want to trade Matheson or Guhle. That means there is 1 spot open for Struble, Harris, Xhekaj, Hutson, Engstrom, Trudeau

Even if 1 is the 7th D, 1 moves over to the right, and 1 doesn't work out, it's still way too many NHL defenders over the next 2 years.
Jan. 17 at 5:24 a.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
Where did the "he's not a playoff performer" narrative come from? The Leafs are bad in the playoffs, true, but Marner has put up good points his last few playoffs:

14 points in 11 games
8 points in 7 games

Seems like a superstar delivering in the playoffs to me...


It's less so the stat's and the overall strength of play that gives him that reputation. Even Matthews come playoff time is willing to throw the body, take a hit. Playoff's comes down to players who put their bodies on the line for the team, Tkachuk for example last year with the broken sternum, played through it until he physically couldn't anymore, I hate the Tkachucks but respect. Nylander a few years ago had a really ****y play during playoffs, was lazy chasing down a puck that would've been icing if he had put the effort in. He's a really talented player but that one weak play in a close game infuriated all my leafs fans friends for months afterward.
Marner panics, he's a little soft, purely on points he's had more bad playoffs than good ones. So yeah imo he hasn't figured out how to play postseason YET.
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Jan. 17 at 5:29 a.m.
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It's less so the stat's and the overall strength of play that gives him that reputation. Even Matthews come playoff time is willing to throw the body, take a hit. Playoff's comes down to players who put their bodies on the line for the team, Tkachuk for example last year with the broken sternum, played through it until he physically couldn't anymore, I hate the Tkachucks but respect.
Marner panics, he's a little soft, purely on points he's had more bad playoffs than good ones.


That's a bit of a reach. I would take a PPG playoff performer and let other guys take the body. He's actually the best of the big 4 on the PK so he brings other intangibles besides scoring.

Toronto has had a cultural issue in the playoffs as the top 6 and top 4 have been too soft. But the Habs have different problems and different needs.
Jan. 17 at 7:19 a.m.
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I had originally offered Barron in place of the Calgary pick, but was asked to swap it by a Leafs fan. Do you think swapping the Calgary pick for Barron helps to get it done?


I just don’t think Mtl have a players that would interest Toronto. If Matheson was a righty maybe there would be something to built on but even Barron wouldn’t be enough. I like him a lot but Marner is a Elite players despite all the hate he get from Toronto fan. I would take him in my team any time.
Jan. 17 at 8:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Joblow
I just don’t think Mtl have a players that would interest Toronto. If Matheson was a righty maybe there would be something to built on but even Barron wouldn’t be enough. I like him a lot but Marner is a Elite players despite all the hate he get from Toronto fan. I would take him in my team any time.


I mean... On the RHD we have Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Savard, Kovacevic, Konyushkov.

In there you literally have every single prototypical type of NHL defenseman. None of those are remotely interesting to Toronto?
Jan. 17 at 9:51 a.m.
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I mean... On the RHD we have Reinbacher, Mailloux, Barron, Savard, Kovacevic, Konyushkov.

In there you literally have every single prototypical type of NHL defenseman. None of those are remotely interesting to Toronto?

The problem is most of them will get to their prime in 3-4-5 years so Matthews and company will already be on the 30’s side. Savard and Kovacevic are fine defenseman but not what you are looking for a top defenseman. Maybe Matheson would be ok. They are so bad right now at defense that they could definitely use another big minutes defenseman who play a high pace game that would suit maple leafs forward.
 
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