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No country for old men

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 17, 2024
Published: Jan. 17, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
If the Habs sell, go all the way and trade Matheson & Savard. Go get the best return and the best Canadiens picks this year.

The time for half measures has passed. There is either a full changing of the guard, or you keep the vets and try to compete right away.
Free Agent Signings
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Gignac, Brandon
2$850,000
Trades
1.
MTL
    2nd
    2.
    MTL
      2nd and 3rd or 3rd and B prospect
      3.
      4.
      MTL
      ANA
      1. Armia, Joel
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      Habs add a 3rd
      5.
      MTL
        1st and a B prospect
        Buyouts
        Retained Salary Transactions
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2024
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        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the SJS
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the EDM
        Logo of the WSH
        2025
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the CGY
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the PIT
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the VAN
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the DET
        Logo of the MTL
        Logo of the MTL
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        2026
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$83,500,000$63,435,416$1,170,000$4,392,500$20,064,584
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $7,850,000$7,850,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $7,875,000$7,875,000
        C
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
        RW, LW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $1,100,000$1,100,000
        LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $2,900,000$2,900,000
        C, LW
        RFA - 4
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $5,500,000$5,500,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
        LW, RW
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $1,700,000$1,700,000
        C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $775,000$775,000
        RW, LW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $812,500$812,500
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $775,000$775,000
        C
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $6,500,000$6,500,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC, NMC
        UFA - 4
        Gignac, Brandon
        $850,000$850,000
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
        LD/RD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
        RD
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $1,925,000$1,925,000
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $1,400,000$1,400,000
        LD/RD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $766,667$766,667
        RD
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $1,000,000$1,000,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
        LD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        RD
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $890,000$890,000
        G
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $828,333$828,333
        LD/RD
        RFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $4,450,000$4,450,000
        C
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $10,500,000$10,500,000
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $3,362,500$3,362,500
        C, RW
        RFA - 3
        Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
        $762,500$762,500
        RD
        UFA - 1

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        Jan. 17 at 9:37 a.m.
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        You know this is bad ? This is why it’s never happening
        It’s just simply bad
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        Jan. 17 at 9:41 a.m.
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        Quoting: CBA
        You know this is bad ? This is why it’s never happening
        It’s just simply bad


        Trading the vets to let the kids play? Yeah I know it's a sure ticket to the bottom. We would get a legit shot at Celebrini if we did this tomorrow.

        I don't like being in the mushy middle. Either add or subtract. Standing still sucks.
        Jan. 17 at 9:48 a.m.
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        Quoting: jonh514
        Trading the vets to let the kids play? Yeah I know it's a sure ticket to the bottom. We would get a legit shot at Celebrini if we did this tomorrow.

        I don't like being in the mushy middle. Either add or subtract. Standing still sucks.


        It never happen a team full of youngster
        There will be always vet to show them how to be pros
        You are super close minded, it's not a video game xD
        Jan. 17 at 9:54 a.m.
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        Quoting: CBA
        It never happen a team full of youngster
        There will be always vet to show them how to be pros
        You are super close minded, it's not a video game xD


        Oh CBA... You always have to make things personal. How sad it must be to feel powerful by putting others down on a hockey forum.

        I have appreciated our exchanges in the past, but I will only continue to dialog with you after you retract your statement about me being closed-minded. If you can't do that, I will have to start seeing you as a troll and treat you as such.
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        Jan. 17 at 10:19 a.m.
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        I’m with you on trading Savard and maybe Barron or Harris this tdl.

        Matheson - Guhle
        Struble - Harris
        Xhekaj - Mailloux
        Kovacevic

        And next year matheson and kovy are the next to go to make place for Hutson&Reinbacher
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        Jan. 17 at 1:10 p.m.
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        Nicely done. I have one quick, unimportant technical comment and then a longer substantive one.

        I know what you meant here, and so do all of my fellow Anaheim adherents (which is why they haven't commented here), but it never hurts to state explicitly that "Anaheim" is a placeholder and stands in for "Any Team."

        I think that your values here are realistic. If the indicated players are traded, their returns should be close to what you have indicated here. The strategy of trading the veterans now -- particularly Michael Matheson -- might be questioned, but the idea of clearing out most of the players who won't play a significant part in Montreal's future seems intelligent to me.
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        Jan. 17 at 1:47 p.m.
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        Quoting: OldNYIfan
        Nicely done. I have one quick, unimportant technical comment and then a longer substantive one.

        I know what you meant here, and so do all of my fellow Anaheim adherents (which is why they haven't commented here), but it never hurts to state explicitly that "Anaheim" is a placeholder and stands in for "Any Team."

        I think that your values here are realistic. If the indicated players are traded, their returns should be close to what you have indicated here. The strategy of trading the veterans now -- particularly Michael Matheson -- might be questioned, but the idea of clearing out most of the players who won't play a significant part in Montreal's future seems intelligent to me.


        Apologies Anaheim fans! I really wish there was an any team team for trades!

        To be honest I see 2 paths.

        Path 1: The team goes on a crazy run winning enough games to get them solidly in a wildcard discussion. In that case, I really hope Kent Hughes will stand by his word and help this team out by adding a few players and letting the team get some playoff exposure. I still hope this happens. I don't really care about the 2nd and the 3rd for Monahan and I would gladly pay a 2nd and a 3rd to ensure a playoff berth.

        Path 2: The GM does not believe in this team: then let's just get it over with and tank. Let's get a real shot at Celebrini by whatever means necessary. The truth is, that injuries have again derailed this team's season and I'm not sure we can expect Caufield or Dach to ever be the players we wanted them to be.
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