Right, of course, these rankings completely ignore the NCAA and the Big-10 specifically just to spite Devils fans. That's why McGroaty (on the same team as Casey) is ranked 37th on THW list and 76th on TA list. They don't watch tapes of those Michigan games! Or how Frank Nazar is 11th and 108th, respectively.

Wait, you're that guy who makes up stats and doesn't provide sources. Of course, you're trying to compare production levels in two different leagues.

McGroarty leads the NCAA in scoring

McGroarty leads the NCAA in scoring. He should be much higher

Casey didn’t get the hype last year because he was buried under Luke Hughes. Despite that still 29 points in 37 games as a dman without PP1 time and arguably the best advanced metrics of any dman in college.

Now he’s 15th in the NCAA in scoring as a dman. Metrics are again absolutely fantastic.

Yeah, the NCAA Is a much better league. Dont tell me you don’t understand basic statistics too?

Unfortunately because the devils had the 2 best defensive prospects in hockey in Nemec and Luke, we haven’t spend 2 years pumping the tires of Casey everywhere like habs fans and media have done for Hutson.

Minten was just an example of what other teams might offer. The point was that it should be a 1st + blue-chip ++ for Pettersson @ 50% for 2 years.

The comparable would be Jake McCabe (for a 1st + 2nd + tweener + prospect) but Pettersson >> McCabe.

Fair. Agreed on the value for sure

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If someone offers a blue chip prospect+ for 2 years of Marcus Pettersson they can go ahead. Blue chips almost NEVER get traded.

McGroaty is 13th in NCAA scoring, he's not leading.

I'm not denying Casey's offensive talent at the College level, but you look at his defensive struggles as noted in the links you provided, and it becomes apparent that he may not be able to translate his game to the NHL, especially given his size (5'9, 160lbs) and how much more physical the NHL game is.

Based on what you've provided, it's easy to see why Casey isn't considered a blue-chip.

McGroarty is 1st in PPG at 1.82. Next best is at 1.72.

Lane Hutson has even worse defensive metrics.

Also Casey does way more of his damage at even strength.



But a guy like Lane Hutson is somehow.

Casey is better defensively than lane Hutson, (his defensive metrics are actually quite good).

He does much more of his damage at even strength (21 5v5 points compared to hutsons 12).

He plays in a harder conference (significantly higher portion of his games against ranked competition)

He’s bigger and a better skater than Hutson.

One is apparently a blue chip because the fanbase has been screaming about him as a future franchise player for years, the other isn’t because the fanbase recognizes that we have Simon Nemec Luke Hughes and Dougie Hamilton, as well as having reasonable expectations on a prospect

You're the only one who has brought up Hutson, I'm not sure why you have this inferiority complex around this player.

I think its safe to say that Casey is a good prospect, not a blue-chip prospect based on the stats you've provided when compared to other NCAA players.

Back to the topic at hand, I think if the Devils' were wanting Pettersson @ 50%, it would still take a 1st + Casey + a 2nd

Agree overpay but if extended it comes down to how much & long. Unlikely cap fit though without other dominos aka Kuz & more.

Casey is arguably the best dman in college.

I’d point out willanders production in an easier hockey east pales in comparison to Casey’s.

Casey on his own I wouldn’t sell for anything short of a 1st+3rd.

If a team wants to offer 2 1sts+2nd+3rd for Pettersson they can have him.

Very unlikely we’d do that.

Casey+2nd with some wiggle room would be on the table

Just because you overvalue your prospects doesn't mean the rest of the league does.

I have stated on countless occasions that I am willing to replace any prospect with the pick I value them at in any offer I make, and often prefer to do that. I’d rather replace Casey with a 1st+3rd in any offer.

If other teams undervalue Casey, then we won’t trade them Casey.

A 1st+3rd is a huge reach when he's not even featured in top prospect rankings by professional analyists.

Then again, Casey stays in jersey.

Fantastic offensively, great defensively. Dominating the big 10 (that’s where all the actual quality NHLers come from) in a way no other dman is

The 59 on defense doesn't scream ''great defensively", it just says he's okay at defense at a college-level, which is why he's not on the listings. That's why he (and a 2nd) are not worth Pettersson @ 50%.

Better than: Luke Hughes, Lane Hutson, Brock Faber, etc

I also love picking up the 1 point from 1 of 3 cards, all of which he’s in either the 100th or 99th %ile overall to cherry pick. Delightful.

I’m going to hazard a guess that you’re upset about Casey being rightfully being picked to represent team USA.

My guy, what do you mean cherrypicking? You're asking why your team's player isn't ranked as highly as you think they should be. I'm showing you why they're not worth what you think. Just because you disagree with the league-wide consensus doesn't mean it's cherrypicking.