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Blues buy Tarasenko option

Created by: CantStopWontStop
Team: 2023-24 St. Louis Blues
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 30, 2024
Published: Jan. 30, 2024
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I am the one who feels stl needs one more offensive threat, specifically that can shoot. Tarasenko is an option. I believe if they add this to what they have, they will be considered alongside teams like the Stars or Red Wings, Golden Knights in terms of cup potential. The team is cool, the prospects are cool, I’ve been bullish on them all season. When they were way outside the playoffs I was bullish, is in the comment history.

A lot of blues fans say the defense is bad. And that simply is not true. It has issues, I’ve proposed adding to it, but it is a good group. -if the blues defense was sooo bad you’d remember the last time a real good team kicked the blues butts- But you can’t, cause they hang in against top competition, because they’re good. If the defense was bad good teams would clobber us routinely. That’s what they do to teams with bad defense.

What if stl, using next seasons cap bump, adds Tarasenko back plus extends him. He gives Snuggerud roster protection: we don’t want to have to send out a 20 year old with less than 100 games played against top competition nonstop. Similar to Thomas staring behind 2 centers on the depth chart his rookie season, Snuggerud should start behind something stable upfront and get opportunities for success when appropriate. As time marches on, snuggerud, if earned, has the path to the top line, and an aging Tarasenko has a path to being a specialist.

It would risk Tarasenko to age 36. I doubt he’d take less term.

I think this has a lot of downsides but is overall a cheap way forward when considering all costs of other paths. Tarasenko’s always been a clutch skater, hard to find a big game he didn’t deliver.

Inflation will hit the salary cap. The cba prevents it from happening today. A 5 mil player will be absurdly cheap when this deal ends. Nobody will complain about kyrous aav near the end. It will be a steal. Term currently has less risk.

Why extend him? Tarasenko will demand term to waive. He got behind it last year and will be ahead of it this year. Agents are good at being agents. Because he will do this; his cost will lower. 2 2nds seems legit when he went for a 1st plus last year. His cost is actually less than 2 2nds, one of those is for Vranas dump. You might be able to grind down the price further, a second and fourth for example. An acquiring team intending to extend has all the leverage. The market will be small because Tarasenko will not waive without securing some term so long as there is one suitor wiling to offer term.

Capwise there are a lot of ways to make it work; all would depend on injury status. Worst case you could bump your offer and get retention, but I think the Senators will demand a 1st if they retain and you’ll have to do this at the 11th hour to get your price. If I were spending a 1st I’d spend it elsewhere, so I’d ride this one to the deadlines last tick, make Staios bend the knee. If he refuses, walk - if you’re spending a first you get something better than this.
Trades
STL
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir
Additional Details:
Extended 4.8 x 4
OTT
  1. Vrána, Jakub
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (STL)
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Jan. 30 at 7:47 a.m.
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They are not bringing Tarasenko back
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Jan. 30 at 7:50 a.m.
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Ottawa will be looking for a 1st or equivalent prospect, also don't see Tarasenko signing for under 5 mill
Jan. 30 at 8:00 a.m.
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This is the exact opposite direction of what both teams are looking to do.
Jan. 30 at 9:17 a.m.
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They are not bringing Tarasenko back


I wish they would though
Jan. 30 at 9:49 a.m.
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They are not bringing Tarasenko back


Why not?

Some kinda burned bridge? Strickland stated Tarasenkos agent wanted an extension in stl, but stl didn’t have the space to make an offer. I’ve never heard a hint that some massive ugly divorce happened. Tarasenko made his bed then slept in it.

Why waste your time making completely useless comments? Just move on from my posts please.
Jan. 30 at 10:01 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 30 at 10:20 a.m.
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Ottawa will be looking for a 1st or equivalent prospect, also don't see Tarasenko signing for under 5 mill


Unfortunately Tarasenko has a -full- no trade clause.

Tarasenko will have as many bidders as teams who will offer term. Which will be maybe 2, if he’s lucky.

If any 1 team offers term then that’s who he will waive for, and the senators will take what they’re given or not deal.

If he goes for a first that’s cool I guess; but the chances of that are very very very very slim. If they retain and take a cap dump I still think no. It isn’t anybody’s fault. The senators gave him the full clause to get him cheaper. They won’t be able to trade him as if there were no clause. They’ll still get positive value, just not premium value. As for his salary, a 4 year extension covers ages 35 and 36. That drives the aav way down. Is what it is. Those aren’t good years to buy. 20 mil for those 4 years is generous, as the last two are probably below replacement level skater.
Jan. 30 at 10:22 a.m.
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Why not?

Some kinda burned bridge? Strickland stated Tarasenkos agent wanted an extension in stl, but stl didn’t have the space to make an offer. I’ve never heard a hint that some massive ugly divorce happened. Tarasenko made his bed then slept in it.

Why waste your time making completely useless comments? Just move on from my posts please.


There is definitely a burned bridge whether you want to admit it or not. As long as Armstrong is the GM, he will not be a Blue again. There has also been numerous reports that his presence in the locker-room after he wanted out made things uncomfortable.
 
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