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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 11, 2024
Published: Feb. 11, 2024
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Trades
OTT
  1. Goodrow, Barclay
  2. Schneider, Braden
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
  4. 2026 3rd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Brännström, Erik ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($2,500,000 retained)
Buyouts
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2024
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2025
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2026
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22$83,500,000$83,334,047$0$2,250,000$165,953
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
C
RFA - 1
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$3,641,667$3,641,667
C, LW
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UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
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UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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UFA - 2

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Feb. 11 at 1:23 p.m.
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goodrow cots a 1st+ just to dump, Senko can get a 1st+ retained, branny can get a 2nd or 3rd, Schneider and a 2nd might be good compensation for Senko retained, OTT gets no compensation for taking on goodrow.

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Feb. 11 at 1:25 p.m.
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Why do fans around the league think Schneider is for sale lol
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Feb. 11 at 1:32 p.m.
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Why do fans around the league think Schneider is for sale lol


hes not going to beat out trouba or Fox for the top 2 RD spots, unless NYR do what Tampa did with Sergy, play him on the 3rd line until McDonagh was traded, in this case trouba leaves/get traded, he is a good peice to get what the need at the forward position, but they should not trade him for a rental.
Feb. 11 at 1:34 p.m.
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hes not going to beat out trouba or Fox for the top 2 RD spots, unless NYR do what Tampa did with Sergy, play him on the 3rd line until McDonagh was traded, in this case trouba leaves/get traded, he is a good peice to get what the need at the forward position, but they should not trade him for a rental.


It’s called draft picks to upgrade the forward position lmao

Trouba is on the books for 2 more years, so 2 year bridge for Schneider
Feb. 11 at 1:39 p.m.
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It’s called draft picks to upgrade the forward position lmao

Trouba is on the books for 2 more years, so 2 year bridge for Schneider


draft picks alone might not be enough to get top 6 players., there is alos cap space to worry about, rangers have 13m next year for 7 spots (22 man roster), that include kappo if hes not traded Lindgren and schneider.

Goodrow alone will cost a 1st+ to move if rangers want him gone for his cap space
Feb. 11 at 1:45 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
goodrow cots a 1st+ just to dump, Senko can get a 1st+ retained, branny can get a 2nd or 3rd, Schneider and a 2nd might be good compensation for Senko retained, OTT gets no compensation for taking on goodrow.

OTT declines


Quoting: Rags21
Why do fans around the league think Schneider is for sale lol


I expected this to happen lmao.

Sens fan thinks the Sens can get Schneider plus another asset for a pending UFA and Rangers fan says Schneider is not available.
Feb. 11 at 1:46 p.m.
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I expected this to happen lmao.

Sens fan thinks the Sens can get Schneider plus another asset for a pending UFA and Rangers fan says Schneider is not available.


never said OTT would get schneider for a rental. i said NYR should NOT trade schneider for a rental
Feb. 11 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: sens65
I expected this to happen lmao.

Sens fan thinks the Sens can get Schneider plus another asset for a pending UFA and Rangers fan says Schneider is not available.


Quoting: athrin
never said OTT would get schneider for a rental. i said NYR should NOT trade schneider for a rental


Because why would a playoff team trade a young good RD who already has 2 seasons for playoff experience at all?

If the rangers org was smart, they would build now and for the future. Dumb teams go all in and give up the future
Feb. 11 at 1:53 p.m.
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Because why would a playoff team trade a young good RD who already has 2 seasons for playoff experience at all?

If the rangers org was smart, they would build now and for the future. Dumb teams go all in and give up the future


Well, part of building for the future means getting out from under the Goodrow contract.
Feb. 11 at 1:53 p.m.
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never said OTT would get schneider for a rental. i said NYR should NOT trade schneider for a rental


"Schneider and a 2nd might be good compensation for Senko retained"
Feb. 11 at 1:55 p.m.
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Well, part of building for the future means getting out from under the Goodrow contract.


It’s called a buy-out. You might want to do some research
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Feb. 11 at 1:55 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
draft picks alone might not be enough to get top 6 players., there is alos cap space to worry about, rangers have 13m next year for 7 spots (22 man roster), that include kappo if hes not traded Lindgren and schneider.

Goodrow alone will cost a 1st+ to move if rangers want him gone for his cap space


It’s called a buy-out. You might want to do some research

Like does anyone on this site have common sense?
Feb. 11 at 1:56 p.m.
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Because why would a playoff team trade a young good RD who already has 2 seasons for playoff experience at all?

If the rangers org was smart, they would build now and for the future. Dumb teams go all in and give up the future


that mentality never wins cups, its being smart on how you go all in, remember 32 teams, only 1 can win it per year and windows close fast, Pens went all in in the Crosby era and got 3 cups, Tampa went all in and got 2 cups, smart trades, like sergy for drouin smart.
Feb. 11 at 2:00 p.m.
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that mentality never wins cups, its being smart on how you go all in, remember 32 teams, only 1 can win it per year and windows close fast, Pens went all in in the Crosby era and got 3 cups, Tampa went all in and got 2 cups, smart trades, like sergy for drouin smart.


Rangers don’t have a crosby/malkin type duo or Tampa’s coaching/offensive ability

They’re stuck with Mika/Kreider who are awful at 5v5 and Trouba playing big time minutes when he sucks defensively
Feb. 11 at 2:00 p.m.
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It’s called a buy-out. You might want to do some research

Like does anyone on this site have common sense?


cap hit for a goodrow buyout of July 1st 2024 (3 years left)
024-25 -$247,222
2025-26 $1,002,778
2026-27 $3,502,778
2027-28 $1,111,111
2028-29 $1,111,111
2029-30 $1,111,111

5 out of 6 years NYR get dead cap, buyouts not always the best thing to do
Feb. 11 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: athrin
hes not going to beat out trouba or Fox for the top 2 RD spots, unless NYR do what Tampa did with Sergy, play him on the 3rd line until McDonagh was traded, in this case trouba leaves/get traded, he is a good peice to get what the need at the forward position, but they should not trade him for a rental.


But he will eventually replace Lindgren in the top 6. It has become laughable how seemingly hopeful ACGMs are at including Schneider in every deal.

The Rangers do not have designs on moving him. Miller and Schneider still have higher levels to ascend to. Patience isn't all associated with them, but youth and chemistry remains on their side.

It may not be what you want to hear, but it remains the course.
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Feb. 11 at 2:02 p.m.
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cap hit for a goodrow buyout of July 1st 2024 (3 years left)
024-25 -$247,222
2025-26 $1,002,778
2026-27 $3,502,778
2027-28 $1,111,111
2028-29 $1,111,111
2029-30 $1,111,111

5 out of 6 years NYR get dead cap, buyouts not always the best thing to do


$1m is a small amount especially with the cap going up lol

The one year it is $3.5m is when Trouba and Panarin come off the books lol

Like I said, it barely hurts
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Feb. 11 at 2:06 p.m.
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It’s called a buy-out. You might want to do some research


Well, have fun paying $3.5 million in 2027 for a player who isn't even on your team.
Feb. 11 at 2:06 p.m.
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Well, have fun paying $3.5 million in 2027 for a player who isn't even on your team.


Cap will be much higher than and Trouba/Panarin off the books lol wow big whoop
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Feb. 11 at 2:07 p.m.
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But he will eventually replace Lindgren in the top 6. It has become laughable how seemingly hopeful ACGMs are at including Schneider in every deal.

The Rangers do not have designs on moving him. Miller and Schneider still have higher levels to ascend to. Patience isn't all associated with them, but youth and chemistry remains on their side.

It may not be what you want to hear, but it remains the course.


do all NYR fans have have trouble with understanding what people write? i said many god dam times NYR should not trade him for a rental, IF they trade him is should be for what they need up front and not for a rental or to dump bad contracts (goodrow). Schneider is a RD, no guarantee he will be as effective on the left side, unless they plan to play trouba on the left side and have a trouba/Schneider line. they can wait 1-2 years dump trouba and have schneider in the top 4 then like Tampa did with Sergy.
Feb. 11 at 2:09 p.m.
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Cap will be much higher than and Trouba/Panarin off the books lol wow big whoop


I meant that literally. If you want to spend $7.5 million over the final 5 years of the buyout for Goodrow, be my guest. In case you want to pay $0 for Goodrow, then you can speak to the Sens.
Feb. 11 at 2:10 p.m.
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Cap will be much higher than and Trouba/Panarin off the books lol wow big whoop


don't count your chickens before they hatch, will the cap go up in 2 years? most likely but you dont know what could happen in 2 years, remember the cap was flat for 3 years do to events outside the NHL control.

Miny is getting hammered by their 14M dead cap this year and next.
Feb. 11 at 2:11 p.m.
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I meant that literally. If you want to spend $7.5 million over the final 5 years of the buyout for Goodrow, be my guest. In case you want to pay $0 for Goodrow, then you can speak to the Sens.


The buy-out literally does not hurt. Are you having trouble comprehending that?

Also, theres a small chance Ottawa is on goodrow’s no trade list and he doesn’t waive, so it wouldn’t even matter. On top of that, you’d get picks for goodrow lmao not Schneider
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Feb. 11 at 2:12 p.m.
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don't count your chickens before they hatch, will the cap go up in 2 years? most likely but you dont know what could happen in 2 years, remember the cap was flat for 3 years do to events outside the NHL control.

Miny is getting hammered by their 14M dead cap this year and next.


Are you really comparing $14m to $3.5m lmao come on now
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Feb. 11 at 2:17 p.m.
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Pass on rental floater Senko and lil 7 man Brann. We need heavy defensive depth like our own BS & Goody. This makes our team worse actually. We can keep useful Goody or easy buyout or easily trade retained for a mid pick after season. This is just poaching a big young rd BS.
 
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