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Thoughts On This Trade

Created by: DevilsFanZack13
Team: 2023-24 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 15, 2024
Published: Feb. 15, 2024
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The Score App had 5 possible trades on/before the trade deadline. They had this one between Calgary and NJ. As a Devils fan I say hell no and 3 out of the 4 writers said NJ says no. One said good deal. Let me know what you guys think, me personally, its horrible for NJ and guts the team.
Trades
CGY
  1. Casey, Seamus [Reserve List]
  2. Daws, Nico
  3. Holtz, Alexander
  4. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (NJD)
  6. 2026 1st round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Recapture Fees
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$79,310,833$422,500$4,632,500$4,189,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 7
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 4
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$2,125,000$2,125,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, LW
NTC
UFA - 3
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
C
RFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 2
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
RD
RFA - 3
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$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 1
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$6,000,000$6,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5

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Feb. 15 at 6:30 p.m.
#26
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Quoting: dgibb10
"our 34 year old will never fall off" said every fanbase ever right before he falls off

You know goalies tend to have longer career than most NHLers, right? You act like being 34 is a guarantee to be a drop off, it's not... but then again playing in front of your defense might cause a drop off.
Feb. 15 at 6:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Lunatik
You know goalies tend to have longer career than most NHLers, right? You act like being 34 is a guarantee to be a drop off, it's not... but then again playing in front of your defense might cause a drop off.


Goalies in the modern historically do not perform at a consistently high level once they hit their early 30s and especially mid 30s.

Also claiming our defense is the problem (I agree, let's talk about a reasonable price for Hanifin) and that it makes goalies look worse is a terrible pitch when you're trying to sell us a goalie.

But Vitek has given up less goals/game than markstrom over the last 2 years so seems like you should be more worried about your own defense.
Feb. 15 at 7:11 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Goalies in the modern historically do not perform at a consistently high level once they hit their early 30s and especially mid 30s.

Also claiming our defense is the problem (I agree, let's talk about a reasonable price for Hanifin) and that it makes goalies look worse is a terrible pitch when you're trying to sell us a goalie.

But Vitek has given up less goals/game than markstrom over the last 2 years so seems like you should be more worried about your own defense.


We're not trying to sell ****, its your team desperate for a goaltender. We're not dumping our MVP during a playoff race unless Fitz bends over and spreads his cheeks.
Feb. 15 at 7:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Lunatik
We're not trying to sell ****, its your team desperate for a goaltender. We're not dumping our MVP during a playoff race unless Fitz bends over and spreads his cheeks.


Enjoy your 34 year old, call me when he’s 36 and you’re still paying him 6 mill
Feb. 15 at 7:18 p.m.
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Enjoy your 34 year old, call me when he’s 36 and you’re still paying him 6 mill


you keep bringing up 6m for Markstom like it's bad, take a look around the league Einstein, a Vezina caliber goaltender is is usually much more expensive than 6m. Hell your team was paying Schneider 6m almost a decade ago.
Feb. 15 at 7:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Lunatik
you keep bringing up 6m for Markstom like it's bad, take a look around the league Einstein, a Vezina caliber goaltender is is usually much more expensive than 6m. Hell your team was paying Schneider 6m almost a decade ago.


Cory Schneider was a consistently top 5 goalie for about 6 years straight. From 2010-2016 the only goalie better was Henrik.

And when he got older he fell off.

But speaking of Schneider

Over the 3 years before Scheider got traded, he ranked 1st in GAA in the NHL, and 1st in save%. 4th in overall GSAx and 2nd in GSAx/60. He was 26.

He recieved 9th overall. Easily the best goalie traded in the modern era by a wide margin and the biggest package a goalie has recieved in said era.

Markstrom over the last 3 years ranks 7th in GSAx, 12th in save% (among the 30 goalies with at least 4000 minutes). I don’t know the rank for GAA but it was 2.55. He’s also 34

And in the time since the Schneider trade

-new goalie contracts are getting smaller and smaller %s of the cap
-returning less and less in trades
-and going later and later in the draft.
Translation: NHL GMs are very clearly showing they don’t value goalies like they used to.

But thanks for bringing up Schneider . He’s a fantastic example of why you need to vastly lower your expectations
 
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