So Mantha for a 2 and 3 at 2.85 M when they can get Jake at 3 M for a 1st and a couple young players? That’s like taking a Mitsubishi Eclipse at “half price” over a Ferrari at a price point that’s about 1/3 of its real value.

Dumbest logic ever. The cap hit is similar not the cost to acquire lol. Penguin likely want 1st (2) high end prospects and a roster player. Not to mention Guentzel has shown to be mid AF away form Sid and Geno

Mantha literally cost you a 2nd. So yeah your still paying Ferrari prices

Wrong Anthony, get Duclair. He'll be cheaper and then turn it up to 11 down the stretch.

Mantha is not good. Jake is a ppg player without Sid and barely plays with Malkin. A 2nd for Mantha is highway robbery.

Clearly you haven’t watched many caps games this seasons because this take is pretty brain dead but keep going it’s funny.

Clearly no one cares about 50 games when your team is irrelevant and the player also is. No one should even consider a 2nd for a player who has been a flop all of his career. A 3rd at the deadline would be a good return.

Imagine a Penguins fan calling another team irrelevant lmaoooooo. Just say you haven't watched, it's okay buddy.

Think the return will just be a second. Perhaps a 4th or a similarly low pick from Vegas for a 3rd team retainer (maybe the Wild since they have a history of it?). Would obviously like a large a return as possible but I think 2nd will be fairly realistic.

I’m not pretending one of our irrelevant players is relevant.

No but you are pretending your team is. It is not. You just don’t seem to know anything about hockey outside of Pittsburgh. Just don’t pretend that you do. That’s all.

I never said a word about our team or its relevance, you did. I guess we still live free in your heads lol. We shall enjoy our irrelevance together.

The irony of a member of a fan base that cries every time Tom Wilson breathes using the term “rent free.” Funny.

No I used it because we have owned you for 3 decades that’s all. Regardless neither of our teams will be relevant for the rest of the decade and then some. I’m not trying to get a 2nd rounder for Lars Eller though.

Guentzel away from Crosby and Malkin stat for this dummy

2021-2024
300 minutes 46.15cf% 45.37 ff% 17gf xgf% 42.84%

Yeah 17 goals for (not goals he’s scored but goals on the ice for) in 300 minutes away from them.

With Sid 144GF

Noticeably better.

Mantha >> Eller.

2018. Penguins haven’t done anything since the caps ran them over like the jokes they are that year. The only thing the penguins own is the whiniest fan base in the NHL.

40 points in 38 games without Sid but nice try. Mantha sucks and isn’t worth a 2nd, much less a 2nd AND 3rd.

https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/jake-guentzel-stats-without-crosby-on-his-line

lol we own your minds! We’ve dominated your silly franchise for over 30 years. Congratulations on winning one cup though, even little dogs get a bone once in a while.

It’s without Sid and Geno lol. Genius. Again the stats I provided for you little guy. Yeah in those 30 some games he was stapled to Geno.

Mantha sucked before this year. He’s on pace for 45p and 27 goals in 82 game season. Definitely worth a 2nd @ 50% retained

He doesn’t play on a line with Geno. You’d think you’d know something about your “biggest rival”.

Guentzel Geno and Rust were a line when Crosby was hurt lol. You think you’d know that. So simple

That was for a blink of an eye of time. You’re trying to fight this weird battle where a legit first line winger isn’t all that valuable but your junk winger who’s worth about 2 million a year is somehow worth a 2nd AND 3rd lol. It’s so sad and pathetic that you’re still trying to fight this dumb dumb fight of yours. You’d think you Craps fans would just stop this nonsense and accept your role, which is in our shadows.

Pittsburgh is a poverty franchise. Gifted everything by the NHL so they wouldn’t have to relocate and still a disappointment of a franchise with the worst fair weather fans in the league. It’ll be funny when the penguins fans all disappear from this site after their gifted generational talents are gone and how quickly they come back when they win a draft lottery and are suddenly relevant again. The only thing the penguins own is an inferiority complex so you need to stand on top of your step stool of first overall picks to feel good about yourselves. Caps wrecked the penguins in that 2018 series so bad that they can’t even squeak into the playoffs anymore and they’ve deluded themselves into thinking they even resemble a playoff team. At least the caps know where they are and are building to be a respectable franchise with fans who actually stick around and don’t put the team on relocation watch when things go south.

Fair weather fans only watch when the team is good. They haven’t been, so he wouldn’t know that.

I’ve been to your arena more than once and it’s really funny that you think the fans actually showed up there in any meaningful way before Ovie. The fact is that by the 90s both teams became relevant but weren’t relevant prior. The fact that we won 5 cups since 91 to your 1 and won 9 playoff series against you to your whopping 2 is all the facts needed for anyone who has a shred of common sense to sit down and stop trying to talk smack to the big dog. We’ve won more cups in 30 years than the Rangers have won in nearly 100. We’ve won 3 more than the Philly scum bags and 4 more than your little dog franchise. It’s cute though that you think the league gifted us something. The lottery is random. The team also was bought by Burke and Mario BEFORE Sid was even drafted but nice try.

Penguins were almost sold and moved. They are going to be so bad once Sid leaves that it’s a real possibility that they’ll be sold. Pittsburgh is the most fickle sports town. Pirates were good for 1-2 season stadium full. Now it’s empty. Steelers? Yeah just wait NHL rigged the draft to save them once they won’t do it again