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VGK blockbuster

Created by: Who_is_Jimmy_Stu
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 26, 2024
Published: Feb. 26, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
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  1. Edstrom, David
  2. Whitecloud, Zach
  3. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
VGK
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$80,067,380$0$1,850,000$3,432,620
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
C
RFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 26 at 9:15 p.m.
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Whitecloud isn't very good.
Feb. 26 at 9:17 p.m.
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That might get you Chychrun, It sure doesn't get both Chychrun and Tarasenko though.
Feb. 26 at 9:19 p.m.
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if Vegas is trading for Chychrun, Hague will be moved, not Whitecloud
Feb. 26 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: sens65
Whitecloud isn't very good.


Big, solid defender and great PKer who could complement Brannstrom very nicely on the 3rd pair and is signed long term.
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Feb. 26 at 9:20 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
if Vegas is trading for Chychrun, Hague will be moved, not Whitecloud


Sens wouldn't want Hague
Feb. 26 at 9:21 p.m.
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Go for the cup in 25
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Quoting: Who_is_Jimmy_Stu
Big, solid defender and great PKer who could complement Brannstrom very nicely on the 3rd pair and is signed long term.


Reason why I wouldn’t trade him
Feb. 26 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: MoSeider53
That might get you Chychrun, It sure doesn't get both Chychrun and Tarasenko though.


Have you watched him tonight? Making Ben Chairot look like Coffey
Feb. 26 at 9:27 p.m.
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Treat both pieces individually if you’re the Sens. Survey the deadline landscape and maximize the return for both.

Unpopular opinion but Chychrun had a bad night, I’m not ready to give up on him and panic trade him.
Feb. 26 at 9:28 p.m.
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Quoting: V123
Reason why I wouldn’t trade him


fair
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Feb. 26 at 9:30 p.m.
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
Treat both pieces individually if you’re the Sens. Survey the deadline landscape and maximize the return for both.

Unpopular opinion but Chychrun had a bad night, I’m not ready to give up on him and panic trade him.


I dont wanna move Chychrun but he's being deployed so poorly and just isn't fitting right now. This Chychrun-Hamonic pair is just so bad. Please Martin just give me a few games of Sanderson-Chychrun to see if it could work long term. If that isn't a possibility, I just don't see the fit long-term
Feb. 26 at 9:31 p.m.
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Go for the cup in 25
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Quoting: Who_is_Jimmy_Stu
fair


Whitecloud is on very cheap deal for long term, is a right handed defencemen and is one of the best third paring D-men in the league in my opinion. He’s the type of players teams need to win a Stanley cup
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Feb. 26 at 9:34 p.m.
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I dont wanna move Chychrun but he's being deployed so poorly and just isn't fitting right now. This Chychrun-Hamonic pair is just so bad. Please Martin just give me a few games of Sanderson-Chychrun to see if it could work long term. If that isn't a possibility, I just don't see the fit long-term


He had a bad night. Re pair him and move on. Hamonic also had a bad night but I don’t blame him completely for Chychrun’s game tonight to be fair.

Our goaltending situation is beyond streaky… it’s a serious problem, I’m not going to say either goalie is bad, but it requires a shake up.
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Feb. 26 at 9:44 p.m.
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
He had a bad night. Re pair him and move on. Hamonic also had a bad night but I don’t blame him completely for Chychrun’s game tonight to be fair.

Our goaltending situation is beyond streaky… it’s a serious problem, I’m not going to say either goalie is bad, but it requires a shake up.


The problem is Chabot-Chychrun just doesn't work so I think he has to play on the right of Sanderson if he is going to fit in the top 4. If that doesn't work they could try and stack the left side but I wouldn't want to pay Chychrun 7+ million to play 3rd pair when he'll be behind 2 minute munchers in Chabot and Chychrun.
Feb. 26 at 10:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Who_is_Jimmy_Stu
The problem is Chabot-Chychrun just doesn't work so I think he has to play on the right of Sanderson if he is going to fit in the top 4. If that doesn't work they could try and stack the left side but I wouldn't want to pay Chychrun 7+ million to play 3rd pair when he'll be behind 2 minute munchers in Chabot and Chychrun.


Sanderson Zub
Chabot JBD
Chychrun Guenette

Branny dealt, and Hamonic in the press box is honestly what I’d like to see to end the season. You burn an entry level year with Guenette is the only problem. Plus who knows when Zub is back.

You can’t have 23 million on the left side with the Chychrun extension but patience is key to maximize the return. The 3rd pair has to be physical (e.i. Kleven next year and a FA who’s physical and shut down on the right side). 2 puck mover PP QBs and 2 defensive specialists paired together in the top 4.
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Feb. 26 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: BillytheKid3
Sanderson Zub
Chabot JBD
Chychrun Guenette

Branny dealt, and Hamonic in the press box is honestly what I’d like to see to end the season. You burn an entry level year with Guenette is the only problem. Plus who knows when Zub is back.

You can’t have 23 million on the left side with the Chychrun extension but patience is key to maximize the return. The 3rd pair has to be physical (e.i. Kleven next year and a FA who’s physical and shut down on the right side). 2 puck mover PP QBs and 2 defensive specialists paired together in the top 4.


completely agree on your makeup of the blueline. There is no rush to move Chychrun but I think if Sens get a solid offer at the deadline, they have got to take it. While patience is important we lose leverage very quickly if we take too long to make a deal.
Feb. 26 at 10:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Who_is_Jimmy_Stu
completely agree on your makeup of the blueline. There is no rush to move Chychrun but I think if Sens get a solid offer at the deadline, they have got to take it. While patience is important we lose leverage very quickly if we take too long to make a deal.


Correct. I just worry about packaging Tank and him for an underwhelming return. It’s 2 separate deals at the deadline.

4 puck moving LHD with Zub and JBD is skilled but chaotic, add the youth factor and you can see where the problem lies.
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Feb. 26 at 10:47 p.m.
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Like the trade, but it's too much for Vegas.
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